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Re: Liberal Leadership Challenge - Baggers - 09-14-2015

If Turnbull gets the gig it will be good for the ALP, they'll have to get a real leader. Abbott is Shorten's best bet to be PM (god help us all). Abbott and Shorten, sheesh, talk about having nothing twice!

Julie Bishop supporting Turnbull is very telling.


Re: Liberal Leadership Challenge - LP - 09-14-2015

There are two possibilities.

Turnbull has the numbers.

Turnbull doesn't have the numbers.

It's not about Abbott, but it could be a move by Julie Bishop to eliminate an opponent for the top job once and for all. The polls say Abbott has no chance, that won't change if he wins tonight. So with Turnbull out of the way Julie Bishop might be the next big thing!


Re: Liberal Leadership Challenge - Bear - 09-14-2015

What a complete clusterf#ck.

I'll say it again... politics is broken! None of these b-graders can fix it.


Re: Liberal Leadership Challenge - Lods - 09-14-2015

One thing is sure and certain...whoever wins tonight won't have a united party behind them. :Smile


Re: Liberal Leadership Challenge - Mantis - 09-14-2015

Politics in Australia has been a circus show now for some time. Neither leaders in the Liberal or Labour parties know how to run the country. Someone find a ring master for the show. :Smile


Re: Liberal Leadership Challenge - Juddkreuzer - 09-14-2015

(09-14-2015, 09:21 AM)Bear link Wrote:What a complete clusterf#ck.

I'll say it again... politics is broken! None of these b-graders can fix it.

It doesn't matter which side of politics you stand on it would appear it is nearly impossible in the modern era of 24/7 media (both reported and social) for a government to serve more than one term without leadership challenges or heavy losses on election day. Add to this factionalism which has become a cancer for both sides of politics. In the wash up after the Howard years the Libs rightfully belittled the Rudd/Gillard governments for the rabble it bestowed upon the Labor party, yet merely 2 years after regaining power the Libs party room stability looks no different to Labors. The worst part of it all is it empowers nutters like Palmer, Lambie and Hanson.


Re: Liberal Leadership Challenge - dodge - 09-14-2015

I think it shows an absolute lack of ability to have a vision for Australia, communicate it and take us along for the ride as opposed to short sighted self interested stuff that we're given.

Because there is no grand vision, all the irrelevant rubbish is given to us, including total lack of respect for the PM from journalists.  It also leads to a dysfunctional  Parliament, as every issue can be made a big deal of due to a lack of cohesion.

As soon as there is an actual leader,  the better off the country will be and the better the opposition party will have to be, improving the overall quality of politics.  I am not sure if it really matters which side the leader comes from.


Re: Liberal Leadership Challenge - Juddkreuzer - 09-14-2015

Laters Tony.


Re: Liberal Leadership Challenge - DJC - 09-14-2015

Abbott is gone, and a good thing too.

I hope we can look forward to a more inclusive government that is ready to tackle the challenges of the 21st century . . . and no more fudging knighthoods!


Re: Liberal Leadership Challenge - MosquitoFleet - 09-14-2015

Good result

Abbott and his hard right like bernadi...andrews...gawn

Hockey gawn...