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Re: Worst Leaders in the AFL! - Thryleon - 04-15-2015
Name me one player who Robbo would respect enough to actually pull his head in if they told him to pull his head in?
I cant think of one.
Not one. The result? Anyone trying to get him to play differently would struggle.
Leading teams really would have tanked at our club. I can't imagine our players having the gonads to actually tell their teamates what they are doing wrong, and I would expect that many of them would get defensive.
Re: Worst Leaders in the AFL! - Juddkreuzer - 04-15-2015
There was one of those Q&A grabs of a few of our players including Murph and Gibbs in the Nab challenge where they ask silly questions like who has the worst fashion sense etc.... One question was asked which I think is telling to the players mentality. Who is the coaches pet? They all said Daisy which on face value is not surprising but considering that MM has acknowledged we are a team of introverts I'm sure a big part of him wanting Daisy here was for his voice and clearly even he is struggling to get through.
It's easy to have a go at him for his injury woes and struggles to find form but if he's been brought to this club as a premiership winning all Australian to help create a culture of hard work and a team first ethic, calling him "the Coaches pet" shows where we're at.
Re: Worst Leaders in the AFL! - LP - 04-15-2015
(04-15-2015, 04:22 AM)Thryleon link Wrote: Name me one player who Robbo would respect enough to actually pull his head in if they told him to pull his head in?
I cant think of one.
Not one. The result? Anyone trying to get him to play differently would struggle.
Leading teams really would have tanked at our club. I can't imagine our players having the gonads to actually tell their teamates what they are doing wrong, and I would expect that many of them would get defensive.
Then it's a coaching / player development problem, because in a sample of 40 people there is no way you could randomly select a group of 100% introverts!
FWIW, I think there are very few draftees who come into the system as extroverts, most spend the best part of their first year or two in awe of their team-mates and opponents. The system makes introverts, if you have a system that works!
Re: Worst Leaders in the AFL! - ElwoodBlues1 - 04-15-2015
Question...can a captain be a soft player?.......do you pick a less talented but more robust player like Simon White instead...he would be our version of Nick Maxwell as an example...
Re: Worst Leaders in the AFL! - Juddkreuzer - 04-15-2015
(04-15-2015, 04:50 AM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote: Question...can a captain be a soft player?.......do you pick a less talented but more robust player like Simon White instead...he would be our version of Nick Maxwell as an example...
Tom Harley's another example.
Re: Worst Leaders in the AFL! - Lods - 04-15-2015
(04-15-2015, 04:22 AM)Thryleon link Wrote: Leading teams really would have tanked at our club. I can't imagine our players having the gonads to actually tell their teamates what they are doing wrong, and I would expect that many of them would get defensive.
Not only do we break coaches....we even broke "Leading teams".
I wonder who let them go..... and why.
Re: Worst Leaders in the AFL! - LP - 04-15-2015
(04-15-2015, 04:53 AM)Juddkreuzer link Wrote: Tom Harley's another example.
I think you have the wrong definition of soft!
Re: Worst Leaders in the AFL! - Juddkreuzer - 04-15-2015
(04-15-2015, 04:55 AM)LP link Wrote: I think you have the wrong definition of soft!I was towing the more robust, less talented line. I thought the soft reference was aimed at at Murphy
Re: Worst Leaders in the AFL! - ElwoodBlues1 - 04-15-2015
(04-15-2015, 04:53 AM)Juddkreuzer link Wrote: Tom Harley's another example.
Yep Harley was another good ordinary player......think Harley's appointment was more faction based...cats like most clubs had/have
a few groups within a group and he was a neutral so the factions were all happy to work under the one non aligned leader...
Maxwell grew into the role...not sure Murphy has shown signs of that yet...
Re: Worst Leaders in the AFL! - ElwoodBlues1 - 04-15-2015
ie soft....probably I mean less vocal, not able to step in and sort out other players when they are intimidating your teammates etc..
It wasnt a slight at Murphys ability to put his head over the footy or win the footy in contests.....the facts are he is a little bloke with a baby face and
he has trouble asserting himself when rough stuff starts..
Not saying you have to be a thug and Murphy is capable of inspiring with his acts on the field but if you look at Luke Hodge .he is the complete package...can inspire with his footy skills but can also assert himself when needed and look after his teammates..