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Re: AFL 2024 Elimination Final 1 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Brisbane - Thryleon - 09-08-2024
Guys here is a statistic for you. The average afl career lasts 12 games.
12 games. Half a season.
We are asking players who have had significant set backs amd kids who have minimal strength and conditioning to come in a hot final and perform against a team that lost the grand final last year. You can carry a few in that category but the weight of numbers who we've been carrying week by week has grown for the last 10 weeks.
Why pick the senior guys instead of the kids? Because next week if lightning had struck and we won the elder players with match fitness would give us more than the kids (durdin or motlop would have been replaced by owies as a hypothetical).
That's why the kids didn't play. You could ruin their confidence by a baptism of fire and there was another game to experience.
Re: AFL 2024 Elimination Final 1 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Brisbane - northernblue - 09-08-2024
(09-08-2024, 01:49 PM)blueianh link Wrote:I think a fit Durdin has promise, but Fantasia is past it (we did get him cheap though, was worth a shot) and Motlop continues to underwhelm.Motlop… the kid who was injured and didn’t play his first game until round 16 or some such was underwhelming ?
Re: AFL 2024 Elimination Final 1 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Brisbane - madbluboy - 09-08-2024
Eddie Betts didn't have his break out season till he was 23.
Re: AFL 2024 Elimination Final 1 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Brisbane - ratlice - 09-08-2024
Does anyone think that Voss is part of the problem?
Re: AFL 2024 Elimination Final 1 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Brisbane - laj - 09-08-2024
(09-08-2024, 10:28 PM)ratlice link Wrote:Does anyone think that Voss is part of the problem?His and the MC's team selection was a massive part of the problem.
Re: AFL 2024 Elimination Final 1 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Brisbane - Lods - 09-08-2024
(09-08-2024, 10:28 PM)ratlice link Wrote:Does anyone think that Voss is part of the problem?
Every one has to take some responsibility for their parts-coaches, fitness folk and players.
Any underlying issues may become apparent in the next week or two with exit interviews and reviews of the season.
Sometimes these are kept under wraps during a season and once it ends these bubble to the surface.
We've changed the fitness section.
We'll see some changes in player personnel...we might also see it in coaching positions.
Re: AFL 2024 Elimination Final 1 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Brisbane - Lods - 09-08-2024
I still have hopes Motlop can emerge as a very good small forward.
He shows glimpses.
You can't take much notice of this season...he's had a poor preparation and didn't even get an opportunity until late in the year.
But next season will tell a story.
If he can get a good pre-season he'll need to step up a level.
If it's injury interrupted he may join our rather large 'injury prone' contingent.
That's the one that needs a severe culling.
We can't keep carrying list spots for these guys, no matter how good their best is.
Re: AFL 2024 Elimination Final 1 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Brisbane - ElwoodBlues1 - 09-08-2024
(09-08-2024, 10:37 PM)laj link Wrote:His and the MC's team selection was a massive part of the problem.Agree, tactically not great either but thats also his assistants responsibility too and Id expect a couple of changes in that area.
Re: AFL 2024 Elimination Final 1 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Brisbane - PaulP - 09-08-2024
(09-08-2024, 10:28 PM)ratlice link Wrote:Does anyone think that Voss is part of the problem?
I think we first need to figure out if in fact there is a problem that relates to personal incompetence (as opposed to simple bad luck with injuries etc.) and we then need to figure out which individual is responsible. And that's not possible for us on the outside. I know on social media everybody knows exactly what the problems are, where they lie, and how to fix them, but in the real world.....
We have tried more senior coaches than pretty much any other club in recent years. It doesn't work. And no, it's not because "we keep picking the wrong bloke."
Under Voss we have played more consistent good footy, and if nothing else, Cripps, Weitering and Walsh have IMO clearly benefited from him as coach, all going to another level under his tutelage.
Re: AFL 2024 Elimination Final 1 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Brisbane - Gointocarlton - 09-08-2024
(09-08-2024, 11:01 PM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:Agree, tactically not great either but thats also his assistants responsibility too and Id expect a couple of changes in that area.Ill say there were reasons why they did what they did which we aren't privy to. They took risks that didnt come off.