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Re: AFL Rd 2 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong - Mav - 03-23-2023
10 weeks seems extreme. This isn’t a boy who was injured in the U/11s. He’s a professional footballer who will be provided with the best medical and rehabilitation services. A few screws and painkilling injections will reduce the rehab time dramatically. That doesn’t mean I would condemn him if he chose to recover more slowly for the best result in the long term. But you look at Daniel Chick having a finger amputated so he could return to the field quickly and it’s pretty obvious players will try to accelerate their recovery as much as humanly possible.
I remember seeing a doctor about a badly-strained ankle I copped in a footy game. I asked him how many weeks I’d miss and he said in a huff that I should rest it for a year but no footy player ever listened to him and no doubt I’d be playing in a couple of weeks.
Re: AFL Rd 2 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong - ElwoodBlues1 - 03-23-2023
(03-23-2023, 01:42 AM)Gointocarlton link Wrote:Our small fwds need to absolutely fire for us to be any chance.Got to win the game, saving games isn't our strong suit.Doc to play in the midfield, maybe on a wing. Let's attack and be bold...
Im a fan of Doc playing in the midfield but thinking about it more, he is a vital cog in our defence hence needs to stay there for mine ATM.
Re: AFL Rd 2 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong - DJC - 03-23-2023
(03-23-2023, 12:51 AM)Mav link Wrote:Anyone see Bartel on Footy Classified? He ran clips showing how Cameron and Hawkins connect a lot better than Harry and Charlie. To his credit, Harry runs well up the ground to offer a target for our defenders but when he wheels around to target Charlie he drops it on his head (or worse, kicks to the advantage of the opposition). One example was a kick that forced Charlie to sit under the ball, allowing Grimes to manhandle him until the ball spilled. On the other hand, Bartel showed examples where immediately after Cameron wheels around he locates Hawkins and drops the ball into the “swimming pool” on the opposite side of Hawkins’ opponent. He says he doesn’t need to be too precise as long as it allows Hawkins to move to it.
We really need Harry and Charlie to have big nights together. At the moment, they are really Plan A and Plan B - when 1 is quiet we hope the other fires.
The problem with those analyses is that the "expert" cherrypicks footage that backs up their position. Cameron does play a lot through the midfield, but not as a marking target from wing to halfback as Harry and Charlie often do. Cameron is often involved in chains of possessions that provide Hawkins with time and space to lead. I imagine that Cameron and Hawkins were presented with more opportunities to score than Harry and Charlie but Charlie averaged more goals per game than Hawkins and Harry averaged slightly less that Cameron. Then there's Stengle chipping in with just over 2 goals per game while our third best goal scorer was Crippa with 20. Having a third forward target capable of averaging 2 goals a game would make life a lot easier for Harry and Charlie.
Re: AFL Rd 2 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong - tonyo - 03-23-2023
Has Cameron's wife had her baby yet?
Re: AFL Rd 2 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong - cookie2 - 03-23-2023
Martin in doubt, surprise, surprise! ?
Re: AFL Rd 2 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong - PaulP - 03-23-2023
(03-23-2023, 05:20 AM)tonyo link Wrote:Has Cameron's wife had her baby yet?
According to ESPN, the baby was due between R1 and 2. No up to date news on social media that I can find.
Re: AFL Rd 2 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong - kruddler - 03-23-2023
(03-22-2023, 11:05 PM)Baggers link Wrote:Confused. Vossy talked of Pitto needing more game time fitness, yet small Durds, without any game time, comes straight in (which I am wrapped with, but...). I can only assume that leaving out Pitto is based on our best ruck combo being TDK & JSOS and this excludes Pitto (based on opposition rucks?).
Pitto didn't have much of a pre-season at all, so he'd be further behind fitness wise.
Re: AFL Rd 2 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong - ElwoodBlues1 - 03-23-2023
(03-23-2023, 12:51 AM)Mav link Wrote:Anyone see Bartel on Footy Classified? He ran clips showing how Cameron and Hawkins connect a lot better than Harry and Charlie. To his credit, Harry runs well up the ground to offer a target for our defenders but when he wheels around to target Charlie he drops it on his head (or worse, kicks to the advantage of the opposition). One example was a kick that forced Charlie to sit under the ball, allowing Grimes to manhandle him until the ball spilled. On the other hand, Bartel showed examples where immediately after Cameron wheels around he locates Hawkins and drops the ball into the “swimming pool” on the opposite side of Hawkins’ opponent. He says he doesn’t need to be too precise as long as it allows Hawkins to move to it.Thought it showed how Cerra looks for the safe pass and racks up useless stats, going wide just slowed down our entry when we had a one on one close to goal. Probably unfair to compare us to Collingwood who are much quicker and can play that constant momentum type game and run teams off their legs but it did show how we often dont give Charlie and Harry the easy lead into space mark and expect them to bail out the kicker with the big contested mark which was difficult vs players like Grimes who like that contested scenario.
We really need Harry and Charlie to have big nights together. At the moment, they are really Plan A and Plan B - when 1 is quiet we hope the other fires.
Re: AFL Rd 2 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong - kruddler - 03-23-2023
OUT: Martin
IN: Pittonet
SUB: LOB
Re: AFL Rd 2 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong - Gointocarlton - 03-23-2023
SOS had no shin guard on so Pitt in