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Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2021 Rd 12: Carlton vs West Coast - LP - 06-08-2021
(06-08-2021, 01:16 AM)Professer E date Wrote:We probably pissed him off when we ignored both his boysWe can't have it both ways though, some justified the demise of SOS on the basis of perceived nepotism.
If SOS returns tomorrow, I bet Ben doesn't!
Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2021 Rd 12: Carlton vs West Coast - Milhanna13 - 06-08-2021
(06-07-2021, 12:07 PM)LoveNavy link Wrote:While there may be more to it, the lack of initial support for Newman when he crashed head first is concerning.
The Kane "Fwit" Cornes piece on this was scathing (as you can imagine).... when he first went down play was going on, so you can excuse no-one going to him). havent gone back to look at what happened when play stopped. youd hope there would be a reason for this, esp for a bloke who has faught back from injury...
Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2021 Rd 12: Carlton vs West Coast - Gointocarlton - 06-08-2021
(06-08-2021, 02:09 AM)Milhanna13 link Wrote:The Kane "Fwit" Cornes piece on this was scathing (as you can imagine).... when he first went down play was going on, so you can excuse no-one going to him). havent gone back to look at what happened when play stopped. youd hope there would be a reason for this, esp for a bloke who has faught back from injury...They also showed the lack of support for Stocker first goal a few weeks ago. ALL teams get around a bloke to a man when he kicks his first, its like a right of passage. We need to fix this pronto, when you run out, all you have is the 21 other blokes around you.
Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2021 Rd 12: Carlton vs West Coast - LoveNavy - 06-08-2021
(06-07-2021, 11:42 PM)Lods link Wrote:Caught a glimpse of former Carlton player Adrian Hickmott behind Adam Simpson in the Eagles box after the game.
I think he looks after the Eagles defence.
Hickmott was one of my favourite players.
What you wouldn't give for a couple of Adrian Hickmott's in the side at the moment.
That's the type of attitude, courage and commitment we need to see from our group.
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We probably pissed him off when we ignored both his boys
That smart move may have just come back to bite us ?
All jokes aside, we're all seeing our major weakness exposed. Until ME becomes WE, we'll languish at the bottom.
No savior or supercoach will change a thing. It's mindset. For the greater good. A clear plan/goals, adequately resourced methods/processes, and people prepared to stick to the plan/roles - for the greater good. The rewards of success perpetuate cohesion.
Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2021 Rd 12: Carlton vs West Coast - northernblue - 06-08-2021
(06-08-2021, 03:47 AM)LoveNavy link Wrote:That smart move may have just come back to bite us ?
All jokes aside, we're all seeing our major weakness exposed. Until ME becomes WE, we'll languish at the bottom.
No savior or supercoach will change a thing. It's mindset. For the greater good. A clear plan/goals, adequately resourced methods/processes, and people prepared to stick to the plan/roles - for the greater good. The rewards of success perpetuate cohesion.
And for Paulys benefit, that is the main message of his mate Sellars.
Team is short for sacrifice yourself for your team mate, it’s Sellars mantra when he talks of Carlton, he doesn’t think we do/are.
Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2021 Rd 12: Carlton vs West Coast - PaulP - 06-08-2021
(06-08-2021, 11:58 AM)northernblue link Wrote:And for Paulys benefit, that is the main message of his mate Sellars.
Team is short for sacrifice yourself for your team mate, it’s Sellars mantra when he talks of Carlton, he doesn’t think we do/are.
You can see my comment in this thread :
https://www.carltonsc.com/index.php?topic=5554.msg337622#msg337622
Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2021 Rd 12: Carlton vs West Coast - northernblue - 06-08-2021
You’re still missing his message Paul.
Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2021 Rd 12: Carlton vs West Coast - LP - 06-08-2021
[member=64]PaulP[/member] is correct about the root cause, when your club lacks stability, when players see turmoil, their focus becomes survival not sacrifice.
This is not a recent Carlton phenomenon, it's been happening for two decades, basically since Parkin last departed.
Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2021 Rd 12: Carlton vs West Coast - Gointocarlton - 06-08-2021
(06-08-2021, 10:05 PM)northernblue link Wrote:You’re still missing his message Paul.Its not just Sellars saying we dont have it by the way. Many are calling our players and the way they play selfish.
Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2021 Rd 12: Carlton vs West Coast - PaulP - 06-08-2021
(06-08-2021, 10:05 PM)northernblue link Wrote:You’re still missing his message Paul.
That is an inevitability, since I don't listen to anything he says, unless I come across it on these forums.
So, please explain to me the true meaning behind the great man's words.