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Re: Pre game postulations: AFL 2021 Rd 7: Carlton vs the Drug Cheats - capcom - 04-29-2021
(04-29-2021, 03:42 AM)PaulP link Wrote:Sorry, but when you see fans lash out, and abuse players for being soft, lazy, not earning their pay, being lifestyle footy players, not playing for the jumper, stealing the fans money etc. that's hurtful, and abusive.
Hurtful? Then they'll have to live with it as thousands of players have before. It's not a church social.
Re: Pre game postulations: AFL 2021 Rd 7: Carlton vs the Drug Cheats - PaulP - 04-29-2021
(04-29-2021, 05:34 AM)capcom link Wrote:Hurtful? Then they'll have to live with it as thousands of players have before. It's not a church social.
it's also not 1973.
Re: Pre game postulations: AFL 2021 Rd 7: Carlton vs the Drug Cheats - Baggers - 04-29-2021
(04-29-2021, 01:53 AM)PaulP link Wrote:A Readers Digest version of the Carlton Supporters Club. Nothing new, nothing useful. Just regurgitating what the fans want to hear.
What the hell are we supposed to make of trash like this :
"Because as much as this club breaks our hearts, we love it and that’s why we get so angry at times and lash out."
Exactly the same argument used by wife abusers.
Rubbish journalism.
Woah, there Pauly. A love of your footy club, plus passion plus massive disappointment sees the best of us hit the keyboard... but that's the only hitting we do. The passionate among us are prone to wearing our hearts on our sleeves... but it's a massive leap from there to spousal abuse, verbal or physical.
Re: Pre game postulations: AFL 2021 Rd 7: Carlton vs the Drug Cheats - PaulP - 04-29-2021
(04-29-2021, 05:44 AM)Baggers link Wrote:Woah, there Pauly. A love of your footy club, plus passion plus massive disappointment sees the best of us hit the keyboard... but that's the only hitting we do. The passionate among us are prone to wearing our hearts on our sleeves... but it's a massive leap from there to spousal abuse, verbal or physical.
The connection between loving someone / something and lashing out, and using the former as an excuse for the latter, puts you on a very slippery slope IMO.
Caring, in all its manifestations, is a process of delineation, a process of separating what is acceptable from what is not. Not caring is the precisely the absence of delineation (everything is ok, nothing is unacceptable / off limits). With football, you can (subjectively IMO) identify acceptable or unacceptable levels of effort, skill etc. and that's fine. But unchecked emotions that spill over tend to cause more problems than they solve IMO.
If you read the article I linked, Teague makes it clear that he is not a fan of "make a statement" selection manoeuvres, and I applaud him.
Re: Pre game postulations: AFL 2021 Rd 7: Carlton vs the Drug Cheats - blueday - 04-29-2021
(04-29-2021, 04:07 AM)Gointocarlton link Wrote:Teague said in his presser today that if there are two players performing at the same level vying for the same position, he will always play the kid or younger of the two. He was referring to Eddie being played and whether he was comfortable telling him time up. Teague said he is, so is Eddie, as soon as someone else "puts their hand up", they are in.
What more does Owies need to do?
Re: Pre game postulations: AFL 2021 Rd 7: Carlton vs the Drug Cheats - Gointocarlton - 04-29-2021
(04-29-2021, 06:43 AM)blueday link Wrote:What more does Owies need to do?He didn't do much last week, but I get your point.
Re: Pre game postulations: AFL 2021 Rd 7: Carlton vs the Drug Cheats - capcom - 04-29-2021
(04-29-2021, 05:44 AM)Baggers link Wrote:Woah, there Pauly. A love of your footy club, plus passion plus massive disappointment sees the best of us hit the keyboard... but that's the only hitting we do. The passionate among us are prone to wearing our hearts on our sleeves... but it's a massive leap from there to spousal abuse, verbal or physical.
Wish I'd said that [member=61]Baggers[/member]
Re: Pre game postulations: AFL 2021 Rd 7: Carlton vs the Drug Cheats - kruddler - 04-29-2021
(04-29-2021, 06:35 AM)PaulP link Wrote:If you read the article I linked, Teague makes it clear that he is not a fan of "make a statement" selection manoeuvres, and I applaud him.
He doesn't have to use the make a statement selection maneuvers, but he does need to produce results soon.
Unless he has some other tricks up his sleeves, i would expect that he should try and make this kind of statement ASAP.
Re: Pre game postulations: AFL 2021 Rd 7: Carlton vs the Drug Cheats - ElwoodBlues1 - 04-29-2021
(04-29-2021, 03:42 AM)PaulP link Wrote:Sorry, but when you see fans lash out, and abuse players for being soft, lazy, not earning their pay, being lifestyle footy players, not playing for the jumper, stealing the fans money etc. that's hurtful, and abusive. You won't find too many who would go up to Marc Murphy and call him soft to his face.Soccer has it crowd cages, in Sth America and places like Columbia and the like they shoot under performing soccer players, I really think our game is very tame in terms of abuse and general behavior.
I expect better from so called journalists. If I want to read what fans think, I come here. That's what this site is for. In the days before journalism went down the loo, you could read and hear something that added to your knowledge, something you didn't know before. It seems as thought those days are past.
Marc Murphy is a little bloke and a lot of idiot supporters probably wouldnt be too scared in telling him what they think but they dont because they know the boundaries of good behavior vs being over passionate about the game.
I'm sure Rodger Federer gets plenty of abuse as does VIrat Kholi as does Steve Smith but if you want the centre stage in a Colosseum then you have to expect negative reactions when you under perform.
Fans who feel short changed at Rock Concerts etc will set fire to stuff, try and get on stage to punch on with performers, its all part of the downside of being a celebrity.
Anyone going home and kicking the dog,wife and kids etc over a game of football clearly have more issues than just a sporting result not going there way and the game of AFL isnt the underlying issue IMHO.
Re: Pre game postulations: AFL 2021 Rd 7: Carlton vs the Drug Cheats - laj - 04-29-2021
(04-29-2021, 03:42 AM)PaulP link Wrote:Sorry, but when you see fans lash out, and abuse players for being soft, lazy, not earning their pay, being lifestyle footy players, not playing for the jumper, stealing the fans money etc. that's hurtful, and abusive. You won't find too many who would go up to Marc Murphy and call him soft to his face.
I expect better from so called journalists. If I want to read what fans think, I come here. That's what this site is for. In the days before journalism went down the loo, you could read and hear something that added to your knowledge, something you didn't know before. It seems as thought those days are past.
He's not a football journalist, he's a political journalist, AFR Political Editor, (Australian financial Review doesn't do football) speaking as simply a regular Carlton fan. There is a bit of a difference. Saying what alot of us feel.