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Re: Post Game Participation: AFL Rd 11: Carlton vs West Coast - kruddler - 08-15-2020
(08-15-2020, 03:03 AM)madbluboy link Wrote:A North Melbourne player was given votes in the coach's award against us and was dropped for the following week....and?
Many a reason why he could've been dropped, including no matchup, niggles, off-field issues.
Only 1 coach gave him votes, so maybe we thought he was tough to play against, and NM were not happy with how he performed the role they wanted him too.
Regardless, he's not likely to win the award now is he?
Re: Post Game Participation: AFL Rd 11: Carlton vs West Coast - Spanner_smf2_import2 - 08-15-2020
(08-15-2020, 01:27 AM)kruddler link Wrote:So the coaches rated Murphy a better player than Judd in 2011, despite Judd winning every award imaginable in that year and/or the year before.Yeah, it wasn't the fact the Judd took all the heat for Murphy and Gibbs and as soon as Judd left it exposed Murphy for what he really is... Hmmm... Naaaah, couldn't be, could it?...
Shhh....don't tell spanner.
Re: Post Game Participation: AFL Rd 11: Carlton vs West Coast - capcom - 08-15-2020
(08-15-2020, 04:28 AM)Spanner link Wrote:Yeah, it wasn't the fact the Judd took all the heat for Murphy and Gibbs and as soon as Judd left it exposed Murphy for what he really is... Hmmm... Naaaah, couldn't be, could it?...
That is IMO 100% true spanner. Well said.
Re: Post Game Participation: AFL Rd 11: Carlton vs West Coast - Gointocarlton - 08-15-2020
(08-15-2020, 12:25 AM)madbluboy link Wrote:Chris Judd (remember him?) was the AFL MVP in 2011.Yes Players Association MVP in 2011, Murphy won th coaches award the same year.
Re: Post Game Participation: AFL Rd 11: Carlton vs West Coast - kruddler - 08-15-2020
(08-15-2020, 04:28 AM)Spanner link Wrote:Yeah, it wasn't the fact the Judd took all the heat for Murphy and Gibbs and as soon as Judd left it exposed Murphy for what he really is... Hmmm... Naaaah, couldn't be, could it?...
Ahh, you mean when Judd retired that Murphy was considered the best option for captaincy?
Yeah you're right. EXPOSED.
Re: Post Game Participation: AFL Rd 11: Carlton vs West Coast - Spanner_smf2_import2 - 08-15-2020
(08-15-2020, 04:53 AM)kruddler link Wrote:Ahh, you mean when Judd retired that Murphy was considered the best option for captaincy?And how'd that work out? ;D Killer appointment in your books? Yeah, didn't think so...
Yeah you're right. EXPOSED.
Re: Post Game Participation: AFL Rd 11: Carlton vs West Coast - LP - 08-15-2020
(08-15-2020, 03:32 AM)ElwoodBlues1 date Wrote:Polec isnt a tagger and not a physical player, it was a dumb move from Shaw considering Ratten showed how you curtail Cripps and the type of player you need. The old theory was you play an offensive player on Cripps to run off him as Cripps doesnt mind a man but that theory has been put to bed with all the successful close checking on Cripps of recent timesWould you show interest in Polec if Norp paid part of his wage?
Polec wont be going anywhere with the money he is on...Nth are the kings of over paying average footballers..
Re: Post Game Participation: AFL Rd 11: Carlton vs West Coast - madbluboy - 08-15-2020
(08-15-2020, 03:13 AM)LP link Wrote:Jared Polec, "Dropped" can be a euphemism for all sorts of situations.
I've heard that Polec was asked to go back to the reserves and work on some very specific sets of skills, as in pestering and nagging, because they tried to use him to tag Cripps and he failed as he is a play fair type player, hardly a shock and awe result! Yet Polec was probably clearly and unequivocally Norps BoG after quarter time, even the media rated him as so! He was basically dropped for refusing to be a c@#t! Don't be surprised if he wants out of Norp!
In the meantime the media lauded Pittard who basically helped lose Norp the game, and Jed Anderson who kicked, kidney punched and ankle tapped his way through the subsequent 2nd, 3rd and 4th quarter tagging of Cripps!
So would you take who hundreds of players rate the best in the comp (They can't vote for their own) or who coaches like Hinkley and Chris Scott rate the best?
Re: Post Game Participation: AFL Rd 11: Carlton vs West Coast - kruddler - 08-15-2020
(08-15-2020, 04:55 AM)Spanner link Wrote:And how'd that work out? ;D Killer appointment in your books? Yeah, didn't think so...How many people were putting their hand up behind him?
I suppose thats his fault too?
Re: Post Game Participation: AFL Rd 11: Carlton vs West Coast - Spanner_smf2_import2 - 08-15-2020
(08-15-2020, 05:29 AM)kruddler link Wrote:How many people were putting their hand up behind him?By your way if thinking, Donald Trump is an awesome president given he was elected by the American people.
I suppose thats his fault too?
Just because someone holds a position, it does not make them the best person for the job irrespective of how they got there. You can only judge them by the body of their work and given Murphy's contribution all I can do is judge him on that and in my mind it's been severely lacking.
Like Pagan before him, he has been weighed, he has been measured and he had been found grossly wanting... Beit as captain or player. Nothing you have said can mask over that other than the way you gloss over and justify his major deficiencies.