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Re: 2019 AFL Rd 1: Carlton vs Richmond at the MCG: Post Game Passion - ElwoodBlues1 - 03-22-2019
(03-22-2019, 07:20 AM)Gointocarlton link Wrote:SPS in defence? Maybe at the NB's. Im over him TBH.
I'm 50/50 on him.....talented for sure but he still picks and chooses when he goes and he doesnt provide much impact with the possessions he gets...
Looks stylish but is he effective?
Re: 2019 AFL Rd 1: Carlton vs Richmond at the MCG: Post Game Passion - Thryleon - 03-22-2019
Collingwood and geelong fumbling a bit too.
Looks like its contagious.
Ditto kicking for goal.
Re: 2019 AFL Rd 1: Carlton vs Richmond at the MCG: Post Game Passion - Shakin77 - 03-22-2019
(03-22-2019, 08:56 AM)Gointocarlton link Wrote:At 61.1% DE? As I said I am over him. At one stage in the 1st qtr I think, SPS and Garlett approached the footy on the ground and they both appeared to slow right up and look at the ball, look at each other before one picked it up. For mine that was a good look. Look I don't know what his role is, I'm just a mug observer from over the fence. But to me, his role certainly doesnt involve:
- Body contact
- Picking up a man
- Putting his nose over the footy
- Tackle an opponent
Loves to guard space, lots of it in fact. Pretty good at it too.
I would be careful quoting DE% numbers
Martin 63.3
Cotchin 51.6
Walsh 54.2
De Goey 50
Treloar 61.8
Selwood 52
Dangerfield 59.3
Dahlhaus 66.7
T.Kelly 67.7
Defenders chips it around and have good numbers. Midfielders often bringing the ball inside 50 to a out number.
Re: 2019 AFL Rd 1: Carlton vs Richmond at the MCG: Post Game Passion - Gointocarlton - 03-22-2019
(03-22-2019, 11:38 AM)Shakin77 link Wrote:I would be careful quoting DE% numbersPoint taken re DE, the rest of what I stated is still my opinion. As EB stated, he picks and chooses when to go, I'd play him in the VFL for a very long stint.
Martin 63.3
Cotchin 51.6
Walsh 54.2
De Goey 50
Treloar 61.8
Selwood 52
Dangerfield 59.3
Dahlhaus 66.7
T.Kelly 67.7
Defenders chips it around and have good numbers. Midfielders often bringing the ball inside 50 to a out number.
Re: 2019 AFL Rd 1: Carlton vs Richmond at the MCG: Post Game Passion - ElwoodBlues1 - 03-22-2019
(03-22-2019, 11:38 AM)Shakin77 link Wrote:I would be careful quoting DE% numbers
Martin 63.3
Cotchin 51.6
Walsh 54.2
De Goey 50
Treloar 61.8
Selwood 52
Dangerfield 59.3
Dahlhaus 66.7
T.Kelly 67.7
Defenders chips it around and have good numbers. Midfielders often bringing the ball inside 50 to a out number.
Danger is a real ball butcher but avoids scrutiny as does Selwood as they deliver in the big moments......agree on the defenders having better numbers...eg Newman will have a great DE% but still needs to prove he can defend when the heat is on...
Re: 2019 AFL Rd 1: Carlton vs Richmond at the MCG: Post Game Passion - spf - 03-22-2019
(03-22-2019, 10:15 AM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:I'm 50/50 on him.....talented for sure but he still picks and chooses when he goes and he doesnt provide much impact with the possessions he gets...
Looks stylish but is he effective?
I actually do like him, but I wonder if we wouldn't be better off trading him to Fremantle for Adam Cera. I would hate for him to have a purple patch then want to go home.
Re: 2019 AFL Rd 1: Carlton vs Richmond at the MCG: Post Game Passion - dodge - 03-22-2019
Richmond have an established team that runs out games very well. We have a new team (some huge number of players weren't in the r23 side of last year).
There were a couple of quarters of intent, teamwork and moving the ball quickly. Hopefully we start playing in the first quarter soon.
Does the no runner rule affect us more as we are establishing how we play and players need a few more reminders of what they should be doing v Richmond's established plan where everyone is well practised at it?
Re: 2019 AFL Rd 1: Carlton vs Richmond at the MCG: Post Game Passion - Gointocarlton - 03-22-2019
(03-22-2019, 03:49 PM)spf link Wrote:I actually do like him, but I wonder if we wouldn't be better off trading him to Fremantle for Adam Cera. I would hate for him to have a purple patch then want to go home.Again I am no expert but I'd do that in a heartbeat.
Re: 2019 AFL Rd 1: Carlton vs Richmond at the MCG: Post Game Passion - BluePhantom - 03-22-2019
(03-22-2019, 09:42 PM)dodge link Wrote:Richmond have an established team that runs out games very well. We have a new team (some huge number of players weren't in the r23 side of last year).The cynic in me says yes the Runner not being able to get onto the field more will hurt young teams. That is why the rule was introduced.
There were a couple of quarters of intent, teamwork and moving the ball quickly. Hopefully we start playing in the first quarter soon.
Does the no runner rule affect us more as we are establishing how we play and players need a few more reminders of what they should be doing v Richmond's established plan where everyone is well practised at it?
They do whatever they can to keep us down.
I think I have become a bitter old man.
Re: 2019 AFL Rd 1: Carlton vs Richmond at the MCG: Post Game Passion - Barbs - 03-23-2019
Having now watched the full replay I’ll offer some thoughts.
It was almost like watching a different team at times. Q1 and Q4 was like watching 18 individuals run out on the ground and watch the game unfold with minimal effort, no run and no teamwork. Q2 and Q3 the same players worked, ran hard together and tackled with intensity.
When we stopped running we resorted to predictable play that the tigers picked up easily. And it was the same tactic that killed us last year - get a mark, stop, take time, quick long down the line. No run and carry at all in the bad quarters. Richmond just put more players at the drop of the ball and knocked it around until their numbers won out.
Defensively, I’m begging you Bolts - abandon our zone. Players guarding space doesn’t work for us. Our midfield don’t play defensively enough and the lack of pressure exposes the backline who stand off their opponents too much. We might grow to suit the zone as we improve but for now we absolutely must drop an extra man back for most of the game to stop the easy forward movement by the opposition.
The irony of our forward line is that our tall players look quick, are mobile and cover the ground but our small forwards look strong but move slow. Ed is not a small forward. He lacks the speed to chase and isn’t creative enough to seize the moment and play on. Perhaps we could try swapping him and Garlett?
I thought Charlie was below his best, but he was apparently among our players covering the most ground. So he’s working hard but being ineffective. Hopefully gets back into form after this one.
Finally, we’ll done Walsh. A good showing from the lad in his first game.