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Re: Rd 5: Post Game Party!: Carlton vs. Fremantle - flyboy77 - 04-26-2016
(04-26-2016, 10:53 PM)ItsOurTime link Wrote:I agree with this in principle but there are occassions to go for a win and when youre staring at your worst start to a season, you need the win to pick morale up.
There still needs to be an element of merit. Always.
If Army's fit and firing (and given Buckley's injured in any event), it's a no brainer.
Rainbow you could argue is a replacement for Simmo, 2E, Byrne or the Doc (only 2E a chance to be dropped in reality) but hasn't done enough yet. The other Irishman is injured. Who else is close to demanding it?
SOSOS - too soon, ditto Cuningham.
Curnow and Weitering already playing. Pretty good mix imo.
Re: Rd 5: Post Game Party!: Carlton vs. Fremantle - DJC - 04-27-2016
(04-26-2016, 10:53 PM)ItsOurTime link Wrote:I agree with this in principle but there are occassions to go for a win and when youre staring at your worst start to a season, you need the win to pick morale up.
It appears that our match committee doesn't agree with "getting games into the kids" and is following a selection on merit policy, and that's a good thing as far as I'm concerned.
Bolton is creating a learning environment and he has made it clear that players must learn that they are not entitled to games but, if they work hard, anything is possible.
Gifting games to youngsters who haven't earned a place in the team is not good for team culture or player development. By all means play them when they're ready and deserve to be in the best 22.
Re: Rd 5: Post Game Party!: Carlton vs. Fremantle - DJC - 04-27-2016
One of the interesting moments was at the end of the game when Bolton instructed the assistant coaches to go and shake the players hands. Even with the emotion of his first win, his mind was still on the job well after the siren.
Re: Rd 5: Post Game Party!: Carlton vs. Fremantle - cookie2 - 04-27-2016
(04-27-2016, 01:58 AM)DJC link Wrote:One of the interesting moments was at the end of the game when Bolton instructed the assistant coaches to go and shake the players hands. Even with the emotion of his first win, his mind was still on the job well after the siren.
I noticed that. The more I see of him in action the more I'm growing to like him.
Re: Rd 5: Post Game Party!: Carlton vs. Fremantle - Gointocarlton - 04-27-2016
(04-27-2016, 02:22 AM)cookie2 link Wrote:I noticed that. The more I see of him in action the more I'm growing to like him.Yep, he has an epic task on his hands but the more you see of him in action as you say, the more you know he is the right man for the job.
Re: Rd 5: Post Game Party!: Carlton vs. Fremantle - ItsOurTime - 04-27-2016
Why does prioritising kids mean gifting games?
Re: Rd 5: Post Game Party!: Carlton vs. Fremantle - LP - 04-27-2016
(04-27-2016, 03:55 AM)ItsOurTime link Wrote:Why does prioritising kids mean gifting games?
You can tear the club apart, not just the playing list, if you let blokes who aren't that deserving take a spot on match day.
Go ask Denis Pagan and Mick Martin!
It takes dozens of trainers, coaches, admin staff to get these blokes to the level required, and giving some kid a game who hasn't deserved the spot is a spit in their face!
I don't give a sh1t! if you are the hybrid cloned love child of SOS, Kouta and Juddy. It means NADA until you've played some good footy!
Re: Rd 5: Post Game Party!: Carlton vs. Fremantle - ItsOurTime - 04-27-2016
(04-27-2016, 03:58 AM)LP link Wrote:You can tear the club apart, not just the playing list, if you let blokes who aren't that deserving take a spot on match day.
Go ask Denis Pagan and Mick Martin!
It takes dozens of trainers, coaches, admin staff to get these blokes to the level required, and giving some kid a game who hasn't deserved the spot is a spit in their face!
Fair sized bow tying this into Mick Martyn. I didny say give games to undeserving players and if we're going that far back - it didnt tear apart Brisbane.
Re: Rd 5: Post Game Party!: Carlton vs. Fremantle - DJC - 04-27-2016
(04-27-2016, 03:55 AM)ItsOurTime link Wrote:Why does prioritising kids mean gifting games?
It doesn't necessarily mean that.
If everything else is equal, priority should be given to players with the potential to play for many years to come. Gifting games is selecting players who haven't earned their place on merit.
Re: Rd 5: Post Game Party!: Carlton vs. Fremantle - LP - 04-27-2016
(04-27-2016, 04:06 AM)ItsOurTime link Wrote:Fair sized bow tying this into Mick Martyn. I didny say give games to undeserving players and if we're going that far back - it didnt tear apart Brisbane.
Voss might see things differently, giving undeserving kids a run is pretty analogous to offering to trade away club champions on a pipe dream. It has a very similar effect on the club in general.