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Re: 2015-Rnd 6 Carlton vs Brisbane (Preview) - cookie2 - 05-07-2015
(05-07-2015, 12:38 PM)TheSheik link Wrote:Surely if he picks players who have shown some form then he improves the chances of getting a win. Continually rewarding players who give little or nothing is not the way to go !!
I'm just stating that he claims that he's committed, along with the MC, to selecting the team most likely in their judgement to win the forthcoming game.
I just don't know how he's evaluating the performance of individuals and how he's balancing form versus player experience/talent in working out the likelihood of how each might perform in the next game. I guess he's currently thinking that the guys he's retaining are more likely to improve and get a win than any available atm to bring in from the NBs - says very little about the quality of our depth atm, or at least his confidence in it. I guess also that the more games we may lose the more likely it becomes that he will eventually roll the dice and opt try others as replacements.
Re: 2015-Rnd 6 Carlton vs Brisbane (Preview) - cimm1979 - 05-07-2015
We will win by 100 points.
Re: 2015-Rnd 6 Carlton vs Brisbane (Preview) - cookie2 - 05-07-2015
(05-07-2015, 01:07 PM)cimm1979 link Wrote:We will win by 100 points.
Could well be a blowout - we would surely be a lot more psyched up for this than the Lions?
Re: 2015-Rnd 6 Carlton vs Brisbane (Preview) - flyboy77 - 05-07-2015
Fev for the weekend?
http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/former-carlton-forward-brendan-fevola-in-demand-as-gun-for-hire-in-local-football-leagues-across-australia/story-e6frf33l-1227342408217
Re: 2015-Rnd 6 Carlton vs Brisbane (Preview) - Baggers - 05-07-2015
(05-07-2015, 11:05 AM)TheSheik link Wrote:The only thing I can deduce from those team changes is that Malthouse is purely coaching for a contract renewal, he doesn't have the club's best interests at heart.
Watson had a reasonable crack in the seconds and we know he can kick long & straight yet the Big Galoot gets a gig ahead of him. What chance does the guy have to show if he is worth keeping ??
If Gibbs can't be dropped for that lame-ass effort last week, then to what level does he have to stoop down to for it to ever happen ?? ******* protected species and a goddam disgraceful decision !!
We'll have some of the promising newbies wanting to leave soon enough, if they are putting in and not being rewarded for their effort then they will take their business elsewhere.
Fork tongue stuff again. MM says out of form blokes won't get a gig in this side... yet good old jelly spine Gibbs gets to play despite appalling softness and being a terrible liability.
Re: 2015-Rnd 6 Carlton vs Brisbane (Preview) - Lods - 05-07-2015
(05-07-2015, 01:07 PM)cimm1979 link Wrote:We will win by 100 points.
If we did what does that mean?
In some respects that's probably the kind of result we don't want....as we've seen before that kind of result just confuses and masks the real situation.
Folk say..... "look they can do it when they want to".
"Things aren't as bad as they seem".
"We could be Brisbane"
What I'd like to see is a close affair with us showing some signs of intensity, character.... and actually caring enough, to push us over the line.
Re: 2015-Rnd 6 Carlton vs Brisbane (Preview) - PassIt2Carrots - 05-07-2015
I just feel that if the club knows that MM wont be here we are just wasting valuable time with him at the helm. Logudice has really backed us into a corner with his comment re Malthouse coaching out the year, it certainly hasn't stopped the speculation surrounding his job and it was foolish to think it would. Only wins stop speculation.
Re: 2015-Rnd 6 Carlton vs Brisbane (Preview) - Lods - 05-07-2015
(05-07-2015, 10:26 PM)PassIt2Carrots link Wrote:I just feel that if the club knows that MM wont be here we are just wasting valuable time with him at the helm. Logudice has really backed us into a corner with his comment re Malthouse coaching out the year, it certainly hasn't stopped the speculation surrounding his job and it was foolish to think it would. Only wins stop speculation.
The problem with making the change now though, is that we then have a coach who...
-Won't be the senior coach next year, so anything he does differently will then have to be redone.
-May (likely to) get us a few wins and an improved effort...you know what happens then. We sign that bloke up on a three year contract without following due process once again.
On the other hand what do we have to lose by seeing this season out with Mick.
Membership is no longer an issue...that's basically done and dusted for the year.
On field we are at as low a level of performance as we've been since the Pagan years.
We can't get much worse there.
Much better to just let it go for this year and start with a completely fresh approach for 2016.
Hopefully that's not just at the coaching level.
The thing that really annoys me is that we're saying these things after round 5
Round screwing five!
Re: 2015-Rnd 6 Carlton vs Brisbane (Preview) - cookie2 - 05-07-2015
(05-07-2015, 10:39 PM)Lods link Wrote:Much better to just let it go for this year and start with a completely fresh approach for 2016.
Hopefully that's not just at the coaching level.
I agree. Let' not make things over-complicated. Just see how things actually pan out and make our calls based on how things stand at season's end. Sacking the coach lets everyone else off the hook IMO. I wan't to see who's got the right stuff and who hasn't.
Re: 2015-Rnd 6 Carlton vs Brisbane (Preview) - Thryleon - 05-08-2015
(05-07-2015, 10:39 PM)Lods link Wrote:The problem with making the change now though, is that we then have a coach who...
-Won't be the senior coach next year, so anything he does differently will then have to be redone.
-May (likely to) get us a few wins and an improved effort...you know what happens then. We sign that bloke up on a three year contract without following due process once again.
On the other hand what do we have to lose by seeing this season out with Mick.
Membership is no longer an issue...that's basically done and dusted for the year.
On field we are at as low a level of performance as we've been since the Pagan years.
We can't get much worse there.
Much better to just let it go for this year and start with a completely fresh approach for 2016.
Hopefully that's not just at the coaching level.
The thing that really annoys me is that we're saying these things after round 5
Round screwing five!
You missed something too here Lods.
As unlikely as it is to occur, we may very well turn our season around and finish off playing finals.
As you say, its round 5. It doesnt help that we are currently 1-4, but if we started playing some half decent football and hit targets for a change, we could conceivably end up with 10 wins for the season.
Malthouse appears to be trying to build the mentality of aiming for the stars, and if you fall short and hit the sky that's a better outcome than just putting the cue in the rack.
To be honest, that is more of what we need than any other tanking for draft picks. what message are we sending our group when the answer is lose on purpose, get the draft pick that will likely see you out of the club, and/or replaced by that youngster coming into the system.