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Re: Australian Cricket - Crisis, What Crisis ?? - flyboy77 - 12-17-2019
(12-17-2019, 12:20 AM)malo link Wrote:Pattinson in for Hazelwood...no brainer. Unfortunately this doesn't mean that is what will happen.
I have a fear that our historical misguided obsession with all-rounders (or basically, blokes who can't bat or bowl properly !) could rear it's ugly head again.
http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/records/bowling/most_wickets_career.html?id=13213;type=tournament
Plenty should be ahead of Pattinson.
Time to blood a kid. Or give Neser a crack imo.
Re: Australian Cricket - Crisis, What Crisis ?? - LP - 12-17-2019
In my opinion an in-form Pattinson is perhaps second only to Hazelwood, and they are an arm and a leg ahead of the rest because they perform in all conditions not just when things suit them.
Given the ACB Selectors haven't shown a propensity to select "horses for coarses", Hazelwood, Pattinson and Lyon are our best across all conditions on average.
On feature of Pattinson in the squad is that he is just as intense in the nets as he is on the pitch. This makes a huge difference to the squad, both from a batting and bowling perspective. The bowlers can no longer trundle around as walk up starts, and the batsmen have to work hard just to survive training!
Some commentary talks of the bowling machines and extended time in the nets, but it's irrelevant and incomparable to facing a real life bowler who is trying to knock your head off after you've played a nice drive!
Re: Australian Cricket - Crisis, What Crisis ?? - flyboy77 - 12-17-2019
(12-17-2019, 01:59 AM)LP link Wrote:In my opinion an in-form Pattinson is perhaps second only to Hazelwood, and they are an arm and a leg ahead of the rest because they perform in all conditions not just when things suit them.
Given the ACB Selectors haven't shown a propensity to select "horses for coarses", Hazelwood, Pattinson and Lyon are our best across all conditions on average.
On feature of Pattinson in the squad is that he is just as intense in the nets as he is on the pitch. This makes a huge difference to the squad, both from a batting and bowling perspective. The bowlers can no longer trundle around as walk up starts, and the batsmen have to work hard just to survive training!
Some commentary talks of the bowling machines and extended time in the nets, but it's irrelevant and incomparable to facing a real life bowler who is trying to knock your head off after you've played a nice drive!
Recent stats suggest otherwise.
Re: Australian Cricket - Crisis, What Crisis ?? - ElwoodBlues1 - 12-17-2019
I'd play Pattinson ahead of Neser...the latter is what NZ see every week at home, that medium pacer who moves it about but probably isnt going to have them hopping around like Pattinson can. Kiwis have shown they dont like it short and quick and I'd be giving them more of the short and quick around the ears especially on another road like wicket at the "G". Its not like we are going to serve up a greentop paradise for Boult and Southee to operate in, the edge we have is raw pace and tall quicks who can manufacture wickets by bowling short and giving the Kiwis what they never see at home.
Win the toss, bat first...make 450 plus and its game over again.....
Re: Australian Cricket - Crisis, What Crisis ?? - LP - 12-17-2019
(12-17-2019, 04:02 AM)flyboy77 link Wrote:Recent stats suggest otherwise.
Just proves the invalidity of purely relying on stats!
If the MCG is hot and dead Williamson will score 300 against Starc and Nesser.
Re: Australian Cricket - Crisis, What Crisis ?? - DJC - 12-17-2019
Siddle is in the squad :
Re: Australian Cricket - Crisis, What Crisis ?? - ElwoodBlues1 - 12-17-2019
(12-17-2019, 06:32 AM)DJC link Wrote:Siddle is in the squad :
Bowler you would pick for a road who will bowl plenty of overs and keep running in, reckon the Kiwis wouldnt mind if he plays though given
he wont be terrorising them and is more of a defensive option.
Re: Australian Cricket - Crisis, What Crisis ?? - flyboy77 - 12-18-2019
(12-17-2019, 05:04 AM)LP link Wrote:Just proves the invalidity of purely relying on stats!
If the MCG is hot and dead Williamson will score 300 against Starc and Nesser.
Too late presumably but this is who I would pick...
http://www.espncricinfo.com/australia/content/player/774223.html
Jhye Richardson. He is the future.
Re: Australian Cricket - Crisis, What Crisis ?? - flyboy77 - 12-18-2019
http://www.espncricinfo.com/australia/content/player/774223.html
good read on Jhye.
Re: Australian Cricket - Crisis, What Crisis ?? - LP - 12-18-2019
While in general I'm not a fan of Langer, I concede the team he has put together is a succcess even though some may argue it's off the back of one or two supreme efforts. He gets some credit.
But I do agree with Langer on one thing;
The battle between Wade and Wagner is what Test Cricket is supposed to be about, batsmen and bowlers pushed to their personal limit.
Put this in context of the fully helmeted and heavily padded Marsh clad is safety equipment tested to ballistic levels walking off the MCG in fear of his safety!
To me the problem seems to lay in the media and social commentary, those calling for Wade's head and those claiming the recent events are some return to a distant form of bodyline, those town criers are the real problem!