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Re: Australian Cricket - Crisis, What Crisis ?? - LP - 11-14-2019
There's the problem, Bancroft ahead of Carey! :o
Neither player offers sterling form before the season's opening test, but what has Carey done wrong when given earlier limited opportunities?
Re: Australian Cricket - Crisis, What Crisis ?? - flyboy77 - 11-16-2019
(11-14-2019, 02:13 AM)LP link Wrote:There's the problem, Bancroft ahead of Carey! :o
Neither player offers sterling form before the season's opening test, but what has Carey done wrong when given earlier limited opportunities?
Bancroft was only picked to be the super sub.
Any comparison between B and C is moot.
Re: Australian Cricket - Crisis, What Crisis ?? - Baggers - 11-16-2019
On the subject of cricket... how terrific is it to be alive to witness one of the greatest ever batsmen in full flight? (Steve Smith, in case you're wondering!).
Re: Australian Cricket - Crisis, What Crisis ?? - LP - 11-17-2019
(11-16-2019, 11:22 PM)flyboy77 link Wrote:Bancroft was only picked to be the super sub.
Any comparison between B and C is moot.
So we want a backup batmen, fieldsmen, keeper, so we picked Bancroft ahead of Carey!
No wonder the thread has that title! ;D
Re: Australian Cricket - Crisis, What Crisis ?? - ElwoodBlues1 - 11-17-2019
Cupboard must be bare if Bancroft keeps getting picked, technique isnt test standard and everyone at international level knows it and will bowl to him accordingly.
His only hope is if the Pakis are back with the Bookies and serving up free runs...
Of more concern is the growing amount of young men suffering mental illness as a result of playing professional sport in this case cricket first Glen Maxwell, Nick Maddinson and now Will Pucovski who hasnt even played at International level are all taking time out and there has to be others..seems the pressure to succeed has ripped the enjoyment out of the game and those in control need to spend more time on providing a better environment to help these young players.
I noticed Chris Lynn and others have long complained about the poor communication between players and selectors and the lack of follow up when players are dropped
or dropped from contracts etc. Cricket Australia needs to lift their game as an employer as do the other cricket controlling bodies and understand their obligations to players as employees.
Re: Australian Cricket - Crisis, What Crisis ?? - LP - 11-17-2019
(11-17-2019, 01:30 AM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:Cricket Australia needs to lift their game as an employer as do the other cricket controlling bodies and understand their obligations to players as employees.
Do you think the scatter-gun selection process might contribute to some of this?
Imagine how this looks from the inside, blokes making double centuries and averaging in three figures in shield cricket cannot get a run, while others who fail at test level averaging 12 have their contract extended!
It's hard enough for us to watch it from a distance, imagine putting in all that work and seeing your dreams dashed by some cartoon capers!
Re: Australian Cricket - Crisis, What Crisis ?? - laj - 11-17-2019
(11-17-2019, 01:30 AM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:Cupboard must be bare if Bancroft keeps getting picked, technique isnt test standard and everyone at international level knows it and will bowl to him accordingly.
His only hope is if the Pakis are back with the Bookies and serving up free runs...
Of more concern is the growing amount of young men suffering mental illness as a result of playing professional sport in this case cricket first Glen Maxwell, Nick Maddinson and now Will Pucovski who hasnt even played at International level are all taking time out and there has to be others..seems the pressure to succeed has ripped the enjoyment out of the game and those in control need to spend more time on providing a better environment to help these young players.
I noticed Chris Lynn and others have long complained about the poor communication between players and selectors and the lack of follow up when players are dropped
or dropped from contracts etc. Cricket Australia needs to lift their game as an employer as do the other cricket controlling bodies and understand their obligations to players as employees.
There's not alot in the cupboard right now. In my Test team I had Maddinson in to open and Pucovski ay no.6. Now both are off on obviously a much needed mental break.
Wonder if they'll bat Bancroft at no.6 as they did in the tour game. Was the only one that looked like that could bat in that innings. He looked alot more comfortable batting there than opening.
Re: Australian Cricket - Crisis, What Crisis ?? - flyboy77 - 11-17-2019
"Having lost his place after two Tests of the Ashes series, Bancroft has returned on the back of just 57 runs in six Sheffield Shield innings "
Well. I hadn't realised that! :-[
Re: Australian Cricket - Crisis, What Crisis ?? - ElwoodBlues1 - 11-17-2019
(11-17-2019, 01:43 AM)LP link Wrote:Do you think the scatter-gun selection process might contribute to some of this?
Imagine how this looks from the inside, blokes making double centuries and averaging in three figures in shield cricket cannot get a run, while others who fail at test level averaging 12 have their contract extended!
It's hard enough for us to watch it from a distance, imagine putting in all that work and seeing your dreams dashed by some cartoon capers!
LP, I reckon the haphazard selection stuff doesnt help and those without contracts would get very frustrated and distressed seeing the same old same old get picked regardless of form.
Its used to be you knocked down the door with runs and wickets or you were that prodigious young talent like Ponting, Warne etc and were promoted early
but some of these selections now are based on no criteria or logic at all, ad the underlying innuendo is more about who you know or what state you play for.
There are so many formats now, so many players across those formats, you almost have to pick and choose which one you want to play and specialise in and I can understand some
young players would be doing their head in trying to figure out where they belong in the system.
Re: Australian Cricket - Crisis, What Crisis ?? - ElwoodBlues1 - 11-17-2019
(11-17-2019, 02:44 AM)laj link Wrote:There's not alot in the cupboard right now. In my Test team I had Maddinson in to open and Pucovski ay no.6. Now both are off on obviously a much needed mental break.
Wonder if they'll bat Bancroft at no.6 as they did in the tour game. Was the only one that looked like that could bat in that innings. He looked alot more comfortable batting there than opening.
Maybe the tour game got him the nod but I wouldnt expect him to hold up under test pressure where ever he bats, as Fly pointed out his shield season average is woeful.
If you were picking on form you would pick Harris but maybe the two lefties opening idea has been shelved after Broad's work in England.