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Re: Brownlow Medal 2022 - Gointocarlton - 11-14-2022
The umpire at the centre of the betting scandal has been named as Michael Pell
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2022/11/14/report-afl-umpire-entangled-in-illegal-brownlow-betting-named/
Re: Brownlow Medal 2022 - PaulP - 11-14-2022
It's been quite the year for scandals.
Hopefully this doesn't mean Cripps has the Brownlow with an *
Re: Brownlow Medal 2022 - LP - 11-14-2022
(11-14-2022, 09:55 AM)PaulP date Wrote:It's been quite the year for scandals.No, Cripps is fine, it's not about the overall result it's about gambling / odds and spot betting on round bye round votes, etc., etc..
Hopefully this doesn't mean Cripps has the Brownlow with an *
Re: Brownlow Medal 2022 - PaulP - 11-14-2022
(11-14-2022, 10:27 AM)LP link Wrote:No, Cripps is fine, it's not about the overall result it's about gambling / odds and spot betting on round bye round votes, etc., etc..
I see. Thanks.
Re: Brownlow Medal 2022 - Gointocarlton - 11-14-2022
(11-14-2022, 10:27 AM)LP link Wrote:No, Cripps is fine, it's not about the overall result it's about gambling / odds and spot betting on round bye round votes, etc., etc..A Newsbreak suggested the umpire has been arrested.
Re: Brownlow Medal 2022 - northernblue - 11-14-2022
Great little promo for the AFL’s good friends…
https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/four-men-arrested-over-suspicious-brownlow-medal-betting-20221114-p5by0x.html
Pity as much effort didn’t go into the journalism bit.
Re: Brownlow Medal 2022 - northernblue - 11-14-2022
(11-14-2022, 11:01 AM)Gointocarlton link Wrote:A Newsbreak suggested the umpire has been arrested.
I don’t think it’s suggested, even afl.com reported the fact.
Re: Brownlow Medal 2022 - Mav - 11-14-2022
(11-14-2022, 10:27 AM)LP link Wrote:No, Cripps is fine, it's not about the overall result it's about gambling / odds and spot betting on round bye round votes, etc., etc..That’s mostly true. But when he gave Cripps votes, did he believe he deserved them? Giving surprise votes to a player would definitely be of interest to punters and would tell them that the odds of that player winning are better than the market odds. I’m not saying this happened but that’s the concern.
For instance, if sports betting had been in vogue when Diesel was pipped at the post by Wanganeen, punters would have been very interested to know that the umpires gave Diesel no votes in the last game despite racking up over 40 possessions. Punters would have pencilled in 3 votes for Diesel in that game, so knowing the way the umpires voted would give a punter a massive advantage over other punters.
If Pell gave Cripps 3 votes in a game in which he was clearly best on ground, that wouldn’t have given the punters who were told this much, if any, advantage.
So, was this just a leak or an attempt to put a finger on the scales?
Re: Brownlow Medal 2022 - madbluboy - 11-15-2022
The only Carlton game he umpired was our loss to Fremantle. Of course Cripps got 3 votes.
Re: Brownlow Medal 2022 - Mav - 11-15-2022
More detail has been released.
Quote: Chief football reporter at the Herald Sun, Mark Robinson, wrote one betting agency was alerted to “a punter or punters placing bets on players’ votes in different matches and winning every time.”
“By the end of the count, a red flag was beside his name.”
The league, Robinson wrote, then cross-checked the betting patterns with other betting partners and found the same individual/s placing similar bets.
Subsequent cross-checking on the games themselves then reportedly showed Pell as the one constant.
It looks like the bets weren’t on who’d win the Brownlow, which would have still been a gamble even with a bit of inside info. The bets placed were not gambles at all as the votes in particular games were known to a certainty. It also doesn’t seem that Cripps was the only player whose votes were at issue. From the punters perspective, it wasn’t important who received votes, save that perhaps the bookies were only offering bets on the Brownlow favourites rather than every player in the league. But perhaps that’s not an important rider as it may have been possible to bet against a favourite receiving a vote in a certain game.
Fair dinkum, Bookies really create a problem for sporting integrity by offering “exotic” or spot betting options. That was at the heart of cricket betting scandals as players were paid to bowl a wide on specific balls in the game so punters or bookies could clean up on bets concerning the outcome for those deliveries. Why the hell are they offering bets on the votes on particular games? That creates a massive opportunity for leaks to translate into certain wins.