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Re: Review - PaulP - 06-08-2021
(06-08-2021, 10:00 PM)LP link Wrote:Yes, based on history our club doesn't get it, many fans don't get it.
They think footy is like working in Jack Elliott's era, The Wolf of Wall St model, where you just hire and fire until you find a Clark Kent as big as you who can get the job done at minimal cost and high profit.
Fans are completely wrong if they think a coach change in modern football is a flick of a switch, it's the exact opposite. In modern football a coach and list overhaul automatically consigns your club to another 5 to 7 years of rebuilding / team building. Another generation of talent thoroughly wasted.
IMO, all very true.
Re: Review - Professer E - 06-08-2021
GITC, then I read a speculative article about the pies joining a "conga line of clubs lining up to talk about Harry". Seriously, the pies have no coin, need the points for Nick Daicos, it's clearly absolute bullsh1t...so why print it!?! The kind of "journalism" the club needs to take outside and have strong words with. It's BS designed as part of the pile on to hurt the club and drag out more clicks and eyeballs.
Re: Review - ElwoodBlues1 - 06-08-2021
(06-08-2021, 09:50 PM)PaulP link Wrote:This isn't a shot at you GTC, but most footballers these days are nice. Back in the day you wouldn't let players from any team into your house.Have to disagree Paul, some of our players are lazy, want to play bruise free footy, get paid big money and leave too much to the likes of a few players who carry the team every week. They are killing the coach and providing not much leadership for our young kids. It's not about belting blokes, drinking 40 cans of VB and coming home at 3pm in the morning before a game to show how cool and tough you are. We just have too many blokes who don't care enough about what they are doing and it's frustrating. Sellers is a neanderthal stuck in the past but he did care about what happened on a Saturday afternoon and wouldn't have tolerated what our blokes dish up in terms of soft lazy disinterested football. Stkilda players are doing the same to Ratten....
Sellers is a goose. If your team mates are here today gone tomorrow, how can you build any kind of relationship, any kind of synergy ? If you have a losing mindset, how hard is that to break ? If you have a club that is trigger happy across all aspects of the football department, how can you give 100% to footy when you're constantly looking over your shoulder ?
Our players are not soft, they are not overpaid fat cats who are just chasing big contracts. Players have been coming to us for fat contracts and brown paper bags since the 60's. Our blokes have lost the winning habit, and have been witness to far too much instability and uncertainty, far too much list turnover, far to much coach turnover, which is why they play the way they do.
Re: Review - rocky - 06-08-2021
(06-08-2021, 11:09 PM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:Have to disagree Paul, some of our players are lazy, want to play bruise free footy, get paid big money and leave too much to the likes of a few players who carry the team every week. They are killing the coach and providing not much leadership for our young kids. It's not about belting blokes, drinking 40 cans of VB and coming home at 3pm in the morning before a game to show how cool and tough you are. We just have too many blokes who don't care enough about what they are doing and it's frustrating. Sellers is a neanderthal stuck in the past but he did care about what happened on a Saturday afternoon and wouldn't have tolerated what our blokes dish up in terms of soft lazy disinterested football. Stkilda players are doing the same to Ratten....Agree with most of that EB except the last bit. Think the aints are showing more endeavour and heart than we are at the moment. But for some diabolical kicking on the weekend they would've won in a canter. They will stitch us up again this year unless there is a dramatic change at OUR end.
Re: Review - PaulP - 06-08-2021
(06-08-2021, 11:09 PM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:Have to disagree Paul, some of our players are lazy, want to play bruise free footy, get paid big money and leave too much to the likes of a few players who carry the team every week. They are killing the coach and providing not much leadership for our young kids. It's not about belting blokes, drinking 40 cans of VB and coming home at 3pm in the morning before a game to show how cool and tough you are. We just have too many blokes who don't care enough about what they are doing and it's frustrating. Sellers is a neanderthal stuck in the past but he did care about what happened on a Saturday afternoon and wouldn't have tolerated what our blokes dish up in terms of soft lazy disinterested football. Stkilda players are doing the same to Ratten....
Leaving aside St Kilda for the minute, I must respectfully disagree. These laments have been constant in all my 16+ years on these forums, across many several coaches and hundreds of list changes. I can't see how that would occur.
Re: Review - DJC - 06-08-2021
(06-08-2021, 12:13 PM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:I hear you but..
Barker had told Teague and head of football Brad Lloyd on Monday he intended to stand down at the end of the season.
He citied the demands of the role, a dwindling drive to become a senior coach and the desire to spend more time with his family as reasons for leaving.
But, late on Monday night, Barker was informed that his impending resignation would be effective immediately — a decision that shocked the popular assistant.
I read that as the club brought it forward and fired him.....
Alternatively:
“Barker had recently approached the Club to inform them of his intention to step aside from AFL at the end of the season and focus on expanding his corporate interests and opportunities.
The Club held continued discussions with Barker and have since mutually decided that with the upcoming mid-season break, it would be an opportune time for Barker to depart the Club this week to enable the Club to plan for the future and allow Barker to actively pursue his next steps.“
A mutual decision would minimise Barker’s payout.
Re: Review - townsendcalling - 06-09-2021
Let's get Nathan Buckley as a Senior Assistant Coach!!
Re: Review - laj - 06-09-2021
(06-08-2021, 11:13 PM)rocky link Wrote:Agree with most of that EB except the last bit. Think the aints are showing more endeavour and heart than we are at the moment. But for some diabolical kicking on the weekend they would've won in a canter. They will stitch us up again this year unless there is a dramatic change at OUR end.
Saints are having their moments but they have spent half their games embarrassing themselves. Hence why they have a percentage of 78%. We have shown more than them and that's saying something. Our losses are a bit over 20pts after being competitive, well, scoreboard-wise at least, there's have been by over 100pts, 70pts, 80 pts etc.
Re: Review - laj - 06-09-2021
(06-08-2021, 11:32 PM)PaulP link Wrote:Leaving aside St Kilda for the minute, I must respectfully disagree. These laments have been constant in all my 16+ years on these forums, across many several coaches and hundreds of list changes. I can't see how that would occur.
Elwood is 100% right. Every part of his post.
Re: Review - Gointocarlton - 06-09-2021
(06-09-2021, 12:24 AM)townsendcalling link Wrote:Let's get Nathan Buckley as a Senior Assistant Coach!!Could do worse.