(09-20-2017, 01:37 AM)madbluboy link Wrote:Could you imagine if that young girl was fired for voting "Yes"?

(09-19-2017, 10:37 PM)PaulP link Wrote:Yeah right. People voting no are not in any way influenced by religion, family, decades of indoctrination etc. It's all down to some loony in a rainbow onesie in a car park.

Penny Wong has been on Q+A about a dozen times over the last decade, each time debating exactly the same points, giving the same facts, the same answers, each time to a newly minted conservative, expressing exactly the same views, opinions etc. Rather tiring wouldn't you say ? At the same time, mental health issues and suicide attempts have spiked in the wake of the plebiscite.

Meanwhile, Abbott has declared climate change to be a third order issue, and has threatened to cross the floor if the government introduces clean energy targets.

But no matter what happens, we must at all times tip toe through the tulips very quietly, very daintily, very respectfully, and most of all, very slowly. Never must we even attempt to rush anyone, or say anything that may even slightly upset the apple cart. We must hear everyone's opinion, then debate, the hear those opinions again, then rinse and repeat. And proceed slowly at all costs. There is much thinking to do. Apparently several decades of climate science and several decades of gay equality isn't enough. there is still much thinking and much debating and much respecting of one anther's opinions, still to occur.

Shh. Be quiet. Keep still. Don't move. Someone is giving their opinion. We must all be respectful and attentive.

(09-20-2017, 03:12 AM)Thryleon link Wrote:There is one part of the equation that I think is missing in the SSM debate.

The definition of marriage can be very different for many people.

A lot of no people seem to view marriage as being one thing, and this attempt to create equality regarding marriage meaning that the fabric of what people believe about marriage is being attacked/changed.  Now whether or not it needs to change is a different debate, but in an effort to appease these people, shouldn't we label it something other than Marriage, apply the same rights, such as a civil union, rather than marriage, and then move on with our lives??

Quote:THE Carlton Football Club prides itself on being inclusive, and a leader in engendering equality and a deep sense of belonging.

The issue of 'same sex marriage' is essentially one of equality; and so the Club encourages all of its people to have their say in this important national vote.

As a Club, we respect that this is about personal choice, and as such don't intend to campaign on the issue, but we do strongly reinforce our Club's absolute commitment to equality - and a community that is free from any form of discrimination.

(09-20-2017, 01:59 AM)Gointocarlton link Wrote:It will happen. Catholic school teachers for e.g. are being told to be careful with what they put on social medial about the SSM debate.

(09-20-2017, 06:25 AM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:My son and his girlfriend are both non Catholic primary teachers in the Catholic school system and am happy to report
both have said there has been no direction on how to vote or debate on the issue.

(09-20-2017, 04:54 AM)DJC link Wrote:I can't agree with that Thry.  Marriage is defined in law and that legal definition is all that will change.  People's beliefs about marriage need not change at all.

(09-20-2017, 06:30 AM)Gointocarlton link Wrote:A person I know very intimately and shall remain nameless was told be their principle what I typed above and that it was a memo from the CEO.