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Re: Rd 4: Post Game Pain: Carlton vs. Western Bulldogs - Thryleon - 04-18-2016
(04-17-2016, 10:16 PM)PassIt2Carrots link Wrote:He's definitely a different player watching him yesterday. Looks like he could play another two years as well.
Yep and at our club he would get the best defender every week where at North he has Petrie and Ben Brown freeing him up to effectively play third tall and roam to the wing.
It has worked wonders for his ability to get on the park too, because he isnt copping the heavy treatment that the Gorilla minders dish out on a regular basis.
Im not solely of the belief we were doing everything wrong with regards to our players, but I think these guys leaving our club to go to places where they can play the roles that gets the best out of them as opposed to staying with us, where we needed them to shoulder heavier loads has a lot to do with their fortunes even if it is negatively impacting ours.
Not since Fevola was at the club was Waite able to play the role he was better suited to, and even back then we were still short one tall (pardon the pun).
Re: Rd 4: Post Game Pain: Carlton vs. Western Bulldogs - PassIt2Carrots - 04-18-2016
(04-17-2016, 10:51 PM)Professer E link Wrote:Hey Carrotts, that spud Frawley wasn't playing much either and Melbourne got pick 2 for him.
Yes but he was offered 500k was he not, and he was not playing due to injury. Big diff prof.
Re: Rd 4: Post Game Pain: Carlton vs. Western Bulldogs - PassIt2Carrots - 04-18-2016
(04-18-2016, 12:06 AM)Thryleon link Wrote:Yep and at our club he would get the best defender every week where at North he has Petrie and Ben Brown freeing him up to effectively play third tall and roam to the wing.
For Waite I'll definitely give you that. It is easier for him. But ball movement and gameplan definitely plays it's part as well.
Re: Rd 4: Post Game Pain: Carlton vs. Western Bulldogs - DJC - 04-18-2016
(04-18-2016, 12:06 AM)Thryleon link Wrote:Yep and at our club he would get the best defender every week where at North he has Petrie and Ben Brown freeing him up to effectively play third tall and roam to the wing.
It has worked wonders for his ability to get on the park too, because he isnt copping the heavy treatment that the Gorilla minders dish out on a regular basis.
Im not solely of the belief we were doing everything wrong with regards to our players, but I think these guys leaving our club to go to places where they can play the roles that gets the best out of them as opposed to staying with us, where we needed them to shoulder heavier loads has a lot to do with their fortunes even if it is negatively impacting ours.
Not since Fevola was at the club was Waite able to play the role he was better suited to, and even back then we were still short one tall (pardon the pun).
Actually, as the most effective forward, Waite is getting the first or second defender. As we know very well, when he's in form his athleticism and unpredictability make him very hard to stop.
No use crying over spilt milk and I'm more concerned about what North's fitness and medical staff are doing differently to keep him on the park.
Re: Rd 4: Post Game Pain: Carlton vs. Western Bulldogs - PaulP - 04-18-2016
(04-18-2016, 01:11 AM)DJC link Wrote:Actually, as the most effective forward, Waite is getting the first or second defender. As we know very well, when he's in form his athleticism and unpredictability make him very hard to stop.
No use crying over spilt milk and I'm more concerned about what North's fitness and medical staff are doing differently to keep him on the park.
Our medical, fitness and conditioning staff have been a big concern of mine for a while now. Some of our guys seem to be unable to break the cycle.
Re: Rd 4: Post Game Pain: Carlton vs. Western Bulldogs - thrunthrublu - 04-18-2016
fk, that ben brown has good hands
Re: Rd 4: Post Game Pain: Carlton vs. Western Bulldogs - Amers - 04-18-2016
(04-17-2016, 11:42 AM)flyboy77 link Wrote:If Murphy, Gibbs and Kreuzer (ditto Daisy) put in even 'ok' games, we would be winning these matches.
These blokes are the reason we are so bad.....they simply don't produce on a consistent enough basis.
Three #1 and one #2 draft picks producing diddly squat.
Yep, this is what is annoying the crap out of me at the moment. Kreuzer and Daisy's bodies are probably the main reason for their poor performances. Bur for me, Murph and Gibbs just don't have any excuses and if my hair were long enough, I'd probably be tearing it out !!
Re: Rd 4: Post Game Pain: Carlton vs. Western Bulldogs - PassIt2Carrots - 04-18-2016
(04-18-2016, 01:26 AM)thrunthrublu link Wrote:fk, that ben brown has good hands
Can play, looks like such an unlikely type as well.
Re: Rd 4: Post Game Pain: Carlton vs. Western Bulldogs - IvanAwfulbigone - 04-18-2016
(04-18-2016, 12:36 AM)PassIt2Carrots link Wrote:For Waite I'll definitely give you that. It is easier for him. But ball movement and gameplan definitely plays it's part as well.
Makes a difference when the ball is being delivered into the forward line quickly and accurately. We all knew Waite's hands were the best in the business - probably best since Loewe or, before that, Swan McKay. Our mids have been w-a-y too slow, lazy, stupid, and inept for too long.
Re: Rd 4: Post Game Pain: Carlton vs. Western Bulldogs - madbluboy - 04-18-2016
Our full forward now has even better hands than Waite but we just bomb it in to him as well. A bigger problem is when he does take the big mark he is a 50-50 proposal as to whether he can execute a drop punt.