(03-20-2016, 11:01 PM)LP link Wrote:I agree about the decision making in hindsight, but we have to put the cost in relative perspective of how, when and why we recruited a Daisy type player.

At the time one of the biggest gripes people had about our list was on field leadership and introverted personalities. We had way to many introverts which allowed our team to be bullied on field. Communication was seen as another weakness, I think it was either Jonathon Brown or Cameron Ling who commented that playing against Carlton was like playing against Church mice, they made no sounds out there on the ground.

Daisy was certainly an extrovert, and a very loud on field communicator, which stood out immediately on his arrival. In that respect if we look at a realistic wage figure for him it seems not such a bad gamble at the time, especially given alleged reports coming from medical staff back then were that he should be able to make a full recovery.

(03-21-2016, 01:07 AM)DJC link Wrote:That's all well and good but remember that Collingwood was concerned about Daisy's party boy behaviour and its detrimental impact on leadership.  The idea that he was recruited to address a leadership deficiency is speculative if not fanciful.  His alleged on field leadership is a moot point if he can't get on the field.

I suspect that the favourable fitness reports are after the fact and an attempt to justify Daisy's recruitment and over payment.  I'm more inclined to accept that Phil Baressi resigned because his advice was ignored.

(03-21-2016, 01:15 AM)LP link Wrote:Firstly, it was on field issues we wanted addressed, so the off-filed stuff is secondary if not irrelevant. Even then off-field as a trainer Daisy reportedly sets a significant example!

The reports about Daisy's chances of a full recovery were around before the deal was done, they are not retrospective like the Baressi resignation claim. Oddly the bloke many posters decry as being partly to blame is better suited than most to assess all the medical information, McKay.

(03-21-2016, 01:07 AM)DJC link Wrote:That's all well and good but remember that Collingwood was concerned about Daisy's party boy behaviour and its detrimental impact on leadership.  The idea that he was recruited to address a leadership deficiency is speculative if not fanciful.  His alleged on field leadership is a moot point if he can't get on the field.

I suspect that the favourable fitness reports are after the fact and an attempt to justify Daisy's recruitment and over payment.  I'm more inclined to accept that Phil Baressi resigned because his advice was ignored.

(03-21-2016, 03:06 AM)Thryleon link Wrote:I reckon you might have this bit confused.  I don't recall Daisy being linked to the party boy stuff in any way shape or form.

(03-21-2016, 03:40 AM)DJC link Wrote:Anyway, it's not possible to defend the indefensible and I'm not going to bother to read any more of the lame (sorry about the pun!) justifications for the club recruiting Thomas.  It happened and we're stuck with an overpaid list clogger. 

(03-21-2016, 02:13 AM)DJC link Wrote:I'm not sure I'd trust a vet to interpret a medical prognosis LP 

(03-21-2016, 03:57 AM)LP link Wrote:I'm afraid your prejudiced shows your ignorance.

Vets are trained every bit has heavily as any human doctor, cartilage, muscle, vascular systems, orthopedics and healing are virtually identical across all mammals. Most of those medical treatments, procedures and drugs used on athletes were invented or refined on animals under the guidance of a vet long before a doctor was ever allowed to use them on a person.

It turns out vets are at the cutting edge, it is the doctors who follow!

(03-21-2016, 04:00 AM)PassIt2Carrots link Wrote:Sweet, next time I need a diagnosis I'm going to the Vet!!

(03-21-2016, 04:00 AM)PassIt2Carrots link Wrote:Sweet, next time I need a diagnosis I'm going to the Vet!!