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Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - cookie2 - 11-22-2020

Was specifically guarding quarantine facilities in anyone's job description at that time of emergency? I was under the impression that PS officers are primarily performing guarding duties in order to spare police officers from that type of firstline  duty?

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - Mav - 11-22-2020

AFAIK, there are PSOs who patrol railway infrastructure. There probably are other PSOs who are specifically detailed to protect courts and the parliament building. But I don’t know whether there’s a flying squad of PSOs who can be sent anywhere they’re needed. And, of course, even if there were there’d be nothing like an unbreakable contract in the military: if a PSO didn’t want to run the risk, he or she could just resign effective immediately (if the PSOs Union didn’t pull everybody out on strike instead).

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - cookie2 - 11-22-2020

A lot of speculation.  I'd still like to hear an explanation from those actually  in the know.

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - Mav - 11-22-2020

If you’re lucky, you might be able to track down videos of the many press conferences and see if this was covered. Otherwise, as the Rolling Stones were wont to say, “You can’t always get what you want”.

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - cookie2 - 11-22-2020

I was hoping for "Let there be more light" but maybe it's more "Welcome to the Machine".

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - PaulP - 11-23-2020

https://theconversation.com/why-the-oxford-astrazeneca-vaccine-is-now-a-global-game-changer-150660

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - LP - 11-23-2020

(11-23-2020, 10:37 PM)PaulP date Wrote:https://theconversation.com/why-the-oxford-astrazeneca-vaccine-is-now-a-global-game-changer-150660
Yes, it's often the logistical issues that make or break a medicine, and something that doesn't need cryogenic distribution, as well as being suitable for tailored delivery, is a big game changer. The two features combine to deliver the cheapest and fastest global solution.

For example, you can give low risk populations a lower dose and still get partial protection, while high risk populations get the full booster and obtain very high levels of protection. Many of you are already familiar with vaccines that work this way, we've either been getting vaccines for travel or having our children immunised in that two stage/tier fashion for many decades.

What is even more exciting long term, is the idea a low cost effective vaccine like this might become available for the more common corona(cold) virus. While that won't really benefit healthy young people, there is a whole gamut of society that are at very high risk from a simple cold.

The Oxford team need special kudos, there two tier trial significantly compresses the process and I think that puts them in the lead, it's probably going to change how these things are done from now on, in the past this dose/efficacy part of the development would have been completed sequentially and added years to the process.

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - LP - 11-24-2020

Got to laugh with a tinge of sadness about the China COVID situation.

For a country that reports it has stuff "under control" and asserts it's had a vaccine available for months, the Shanghai Airport situation seems somewhat contradictory! :o

And so falls another pillar of COVID denialism, I've also read that China is now blaming Italy for Sars-CoV-2, but that appears to be a gross generalisation of the connection to Horseshoe bats which have wide ranging variants. The science now indicating the specific zoonosis is highly likely to be very closely connected to a specific Chinese Horseshoe bat (Rhinolophus sinicus) population in mainland China! :Smile

Interestingly, it looks like the science is stronger than ever that both Sars and Sars-CoV-2 share the very same zoonosis.

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - LP - 11-29-2020

https://www.theage.com.au/world/europe/signs-sweden-has-lost-faith-with-covid-expert-anders-tegnell-as-deaths-rise-20201129-p56iu2.html

A bit slow to report his, the changes started happening 3 or 4 weeks back, but once 20 and 30 year fit and healthy types started dying or being severely disabled by suffering long term effects it was all over for this immunity strategy. Once it became the sons and daughters of the decision makers some who were previous COVID deniers, attitudes changed!

The nail on naysayers and deniers completely ignore the long term symptoms of many COVID survivors, it's like the deniers can only see or understand two binary states in complete ignorance of the middle ground, you live or you die in their eyes!

While not all people suffer severe or long term effects, living through COVID is not like being guaranteed to survive in full health, there is nothing further from the truth! It looks like for every person that dies, there is at least another one who will live with long term effects, like loss of limb control or locomotion, incontinence, liver, heart disease, lung disease or mental impairment.

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - Gointocarlton - 12-03-2020

If so much as one of these muppet tennis players brings covid to Melbourne, said player, Craig Tiley and Dictator Dan need a bullet between the eyes. >Sad  >Sad