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Re: Australian Cricket - Crisis, What Crisis ?? - dodge - 03-26-2019
I'm not sure this should have been given out - without looking up the rule, I think it is along the lines of if the bowler has planted their front foot, the batsman can expect the bowler to bowl and is free to leave their crease.
Buttler hadn't left his crease at that time.
Certainly agree with the sentiment of batsman cheating by running early.
Re: Australian Cricket - Crisis, What Crisis ?? - Professer E - 03-26-2019
Etiquette normally dictates that you give a warning first.
Personally I don't see how it can be out... The bowler has not bowled a legitimate delivery, so basically it is a dead ball situation as the ball has not returned into play?
Re: Australian Cricket - Crisis, What Crisis ?? - DJC - 03-26-2019
(03-26-2019, 07:43 AM)Professer E link Wrote:Etiquette normally dictates that you give a warning first.
Personally I don't see how it can be out... The bowler has not bowled a legitimate delivery, so basically it is a dead ball situation as the ball has not returned into play?
My understanding of the rule - and this comes from TV commentators discussing the rule after a similar dismissal many years ago - is that the ball has to leave the bowler’s hand before the bails can be removed, ie transfer the ball from right to left hand. Don’t quote me on that
Re: Australian Cricket - Crisis, What Crisis ?? - LP - 03-26-2019
(03-26-2019, 07:43 AM)Professer E link Wrote:Etiquette normally dictates that you give a warning first.
Personally I don't see how it can be out... The bowler has not bowled a legitimate delivery, so basically it is a dead ball situation as the ball has not returned into play?
The ball is live as soon as the bowler enters their delivery stride.
Re: Australian Cricket - Crisis, What Crisis ?? - DJC - 03-27-2019
The MCC has come out in support of Ashwin and the Mankad rule:
Quote:However, the traditional custodians of the game's laws have ruled in Ashwin's favour.
The MCC released a statement which began by clarifying law 41.16 — non-striker leaving his/her ground early — and said the law was "essential".
"In relation to the incident, the wording of the law needs to be examined to understand it further," the MCC statement read.
"This law is essential. Without it, non-strikers could back up at liberty, several yards down the pitch, and a law is needed to prevent such action."
Re: Australian Cricket - Crisis, What Crisis ?? - sandsmere - 03-27-2019
(03-26-2019, 09:31 PM)LP link Wrote:The ball is live as soon as the bowler enters their delivery stride.
Yes.
That has been the rule for a long time.
Re: Australian Cricket - Crisis, What Crisis ?? - LP - 03-27-2019
(03-27-2019, 03:08 AM)DJC link Wrote:The MCC has come out in support of Ashwin and the Mankad rule:
It had to because that is the way the rule is written.
This run-out issue is pretty simple, it's like being booked for speeding, don't do it and you won't get caught!
But even so I reiterate, I'd make it a short run if the non-striker leaves the crease before the ball is released, the batsmen will stop doing it immediately.
Re: Australian Cricket - Crisis, What Crisis ?? - Professer E - 03-27-2019
Bit of a grey area... In his delivery stride ? .. But they take the bails before delivery, so technically there isnt one.
Need to tighten the wording I reckon but I'm OK with the rule in principle.
Re: Australian Cricket - Crisis, What Crisis ?? - Jack Burton - 03-27-2019
If Warner had done what Ashwin did he'd be the worst bloke in the world (again)
Re: Australian Cricket - Crisis, What Crisis ?? - PaulP - 03-27-2019
https://www.smh.com.au/sport/cricket/former-australian-cricketer-bruce-yardley-dies-20190327-p5186e.html