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Re: General Discussions - kruddler - 12-22-2023
(12-21-2023, 01:16 PM)dodge link Wrote:Yes, there are benefits of working from home. There are also negatives. It is dependent on size, purpose of org and management.
- General productivity and communication is dropping as people get comfortable with it.
- There are more taking the P!ss with it again.
- Lose the water cooler idea sharing/venting
- Lose relationship with teams
Yes, local business benefit (by the time I think about lunch, get organised to get it, then eat it takes longer than at an office - so is the extra time made up?), but those that invested in their retail/hospitality business in CBD or other centres lose out.
The first 2 points occur whether you are at home, or at the office. Long term, these people get found out and moved on, so its a non-issue IMO.
The last 2 points are more of a concern, but can be compensate for that by including more team building exercises, or social gatherings etc. You could argue that less of that is required if its specifically designed for that purpose. More bang for your buck.
I think Melbourne is somewhat of a unique case study in a way as we are a large city with a large spread. People come from far and wide compared to some others cities, especially around the world.
Re: General Discussions - Thryleon - 12-22-2023
Working from home, vs working at work.
You know, everyone always looks at the positives/negatives of doing so. Ultimately its not about where you work, its about having clear KPI's and meeting those.
From what I have seen, the work from home stuff, generated a lot more useless work than actual work in a lot of people. Also, if you get outsourced, because remote working sees work going offshore to someone getting paid less to do a lot more, then I dont see how people can complain.
When push comes to shove, there is a case for remote working, and a case for not, but ultimately its not a one size fits all approach. I prefer not to commute, but there are some things you just cannot do remotely, and remote workers end up delegating tasks to people on premise, to get away with working from home, leaving on premises resources over worked.
Where this gets really problematic, is to do with what people consider work. Also, when you get one of those useless resources, they can get away with a lot more remotely. Although, i have seen plenty sleeping at the office.
Re: General Discussions - madbluboy - 12-22-2023
(12-15-2023, 06:23 AM)Gointocarlton link Wrote:Ive said it once and Ill say it again, the days of needing proof to chuck someone in jail are gone.
Wilkinson is a grub, as for Higgins, I best not comment.
Do you believe Lehrmann's version of events that he didn't touch her?
Re: General Discussions - Gointocarlton - 12-22-2023
(12-22-2023, 04:32 AM)madbluboy link Wrote:Do you believe Lehrmann's version of events that he didn't touch her?My point is on the basis of the evidence that appears to been presented, if I was in the jury, I could not find him guilty. Unfortunately for Higgins, she didn't report into to a police station or a hospital the morning after to be properly interviewed and importantly tested.
If a person can be charged with rape when all that's known is that two people walked into an office, the law is stuffed in my opinion.
Re: General Discussions - LP - 12-22-2023
(12-22-2023, 03:51 AM)Thryleon date Wrote:Working from home, vs working at work.A lot of this is more about the quality of managers than the where staff are located, there are a lot of very average managers who have been exposed by WFH, but there are a lot of very ordinary staff who have been exposed by WFH as well.
You know, everyone always looks at the positives/negatives of doing so. Ultimately its not about where you work, its about having clear KPI's and meeting those.
An actuary friend of mine said an almost immediate side effect of WFH has been a massive drop in compo claims, those likely to try it on are also likely to be the first to stay home, and they can't sue themselves! But they have also noticed a strong trend emerging, people rolling up to the office unexpectedly only to having an accident.
Re: General Discussions - LP - 12-22-2023
(12-22-2023, 05:35 AM)Gointocarlton date Wrote:If a person can be charged with rape when all that's known is that two people walked into an office, the law is stuffed in my opinion.I can't tell you what happened, nobody outside of those two know.
But Lehrmann is still in the country, while Higgins has taken a massive public purse payout and scarpered, it's leaving a bad taste!
Re: General Discussions - Baggers - 12-22-2023
(12-22-2023, 05:43 AM)LP link Wrote:I can't tell you what happened, nobody outside of those two know.
But Lehrmann is still in the country, while Higgins has taken a massive public purse payout and scarpered, it's leaving a bad taste!
Yep, what a mess; a circus. I think I'll defer to the assessments of the judge in the present case, where he has said that neither of Numbnuts nor Princess is particularly reliable as a witness! Both flawed.
However, regardless, alleged rape is about as serious a crime as it gets. But, tragically (for either Princess or Numbnuts), this case has blurs and greys all over the shop: Alcohol, delayed reporting, reported plying Princess with grog, cocaine, payouts before legal proof/trial, careers ruined, ministers under all manner of suspicious clouds, media people evangelizing and showboating, premature judgements... What a rats nest parliament must be!
Re: General Discussions - LP - 12-22-2023
(12-22-2023, 06:05 AM)Baggers date Wrote:Yep, what a mess; a circus. I think I'll defer to the assessments of the judge in the present case, where he has said that neither of Numbnuts nor Princess is particularly reliable as a witness! Both flawed.If Lehrmann gets a big damages pay-out as well, have they both played everybody, I wouldn't be surprised to find out one day it was so?
What if the only victim here was the general public, Higgins and Lehrmann get payouts, Wilkinson and Ten gets publicity, and profit, whether we are watching their pain or watching their victory we are still watching and they have already made far more than any pitiful amount they are forced to pay!
A court case including a fleet of lawyers might actually be cheaper to produce than any real show!
Sounds like paranoia doesn't it, ................... but is it?
Re: General Discussions - Gointocarlton - 12-22-2023
(12-22-2023, 06:05 AM)Baggers link Wrote:Yep, what a mess; a circus. I think I'll defer to the assessments of the judge in the present case, where he has said that neither of Numbnuts nor Princess is particularly reliable as a witness! Both flawed.Dont underestimate the role said Princess's boyfriend has played in all this. Seems like a bigger grub than Wilkinson.
However, regardless, alleged rape is about as serious a crime as it gets. But, tragically (for either Princess or Numbnuts), this case has blurs and greys all over the shop: Alcohol, delayed reporting, reported plying Princess with grog, cocaine, payouts before legal proof/trial, careers ruined, ministers under all manner of suspicious clouds, media people evangelizing and showboating, premature judgements... What a rats nest parliament must be!
Re: General Discussions - DJC - 12-22-2023
(12-22-2023, 05:35 AM)Gointocarlton link Wrote:My point is on the basis of the evidence that appears to been presented, if I was in the jury, I could not find him guilty. Unfortunately for Higgins, she didn't report into to a police station or a hospital the morning after to be properly interviewed and importantly tested.
If a person can be charged with rape when all that's known is that two people walked into an office, the law is stuffed in my opinion.
Perhaps he's just the type of bloke that women like to accuse of raping them ... or he's a rapist.
https://www.theaustralian.com.au/breaking-news/bruce-lehrmann-charged-with-rape-in-toowoomba-over-2021-alleged-incident/news-story/09b77ddd1f4c717fb69fe2ed51c06d13