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Re: AFL Rd 17 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs GWS - ElwoodBlues1 - 07-08-2024
(07-08-2024, 10:23 AM)crashlander link Wrote:What happened to H? We lost by 2 goals, not 20.GWS might argue that if Taylor had played Harry might have only got 2 as well....
It irks me to see Hogan kicking goals. On a fit Weitering, he'd be lucky to get 2.
Re: AFL Rd 17 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs GWS - DJC - 07-08-2024
(07-08-2024, 05:47 AM)kruddler link Wrote:A few of us have mentioned the same thing in a more specific way.
But.....
Can anyone remember a single move Voss made for the night?
Was ANYONE tried in a different position?
Do coaches make significant positional moves these days … apart from Mitchell moving Hardwick into defence and losing to Port?
Our last quarter showed that we had the structure right. It was more a case of players not contributing, perhaps because they were over confident after the first quarter, than a lack of positional moves.
If there’s any criticism of our coaching group, it should be focused on the messaging provided at quarter and half time.
Re: AFL Rd 17 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs GWS - kruddler - 07-08-2024
(07-08-2024, 12:14 PM)DJC link Wrote:Do coaches make significant positional moves these days … apart from Mitchell moving Hardwick into defence and losing to Port?
Our last quarter showed that we had the structure right. It was more a case of players not contributing, perhaps because they were over confident after the first quarter, than a lack of positional moves.
If there’s any criticism of our coaching group, it should be focused on the messaging provided at quarter and half time.
There was a 75 point turnaround or something like that.
I get that coaches rarely.make.moves nowadays but f*** me, surely you try something before it gets to that stage! To not do so is just sadistic.
For the life of me.i can't work out why Charlie didn't swing into defence. He's saved the day a few times doing that. Vossy has said he has a license to do it as he sees fit. WTF were we waiting for?
Re: AFL Rd 17 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs GWS - ElwoodBlues1 - 07-08-2024
Id disagree that coaches rarely make moves....McRae makes a lot and thats why Collingwood have a lot of comebacks and close games.
Re: AFL Rd 17 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs GWS - LP - 07-08-2024
(07-08-2024, 12:22 PM)kruddler date Wrote:For the life of me.i can't work out why Charlie didn't swing into defence. He's saved the day a few times doing that. Vossy has said he has a license to do it as he sees fit. WTF were we waiting for?Charlie has a full 3rd of the ground in which he can roam and still stay within goal range, it's enough.
Sending Charlie Curnow to the other end of the ground out of range of goal is a win for the opposition.
Moves are of any value if they are stupid.
Re: AFL Rd 17 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs GWS - kruddler - 07-08-2024
(07-08-2024, 12:44 PM)LP link Wrote:Charlie has a full 3rd of the ground in which he can roam and still stay within goal range, it's enough.
Sending Charlie Curnow to the other end of the ground out of range of goal is a win for the opposition.
Moves are of any value if they are stupid.
Go back and watch some.games from the first third of the season and come back here and say that again with a straight face.
Re: AFL Rd 17 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs GWS - DJC - 07-08-2024
(07-08-2024, 12:22 PM)kruddler link Wrote:There was a 75 point turnaround or something like that.
I get that coaches rarely.make.moves nowadays but f*** me, surely you try something before it gets to that stage! To not do so is just sadistic.
For the life of me.i can't work out why Charlie didn't swing into defence. He's saved the day a few times doing that. Vossy has said he has a license to do it as he sees fit. WTF were we waiting for?
Moving the magnets wouldn’t have changed anything. A flea in the ear or boot up the butt might have worked.
GWS probably fell into the same trap in the last quarter. It was attitude and application that made the difference, not positional changes.
Think back to the Geelong game. Scott moved Stewart into the forward line to replace the injured Hawkins … for five minutes before moving him back to defence.
Games are won and lost in the preparation, scenario planning, team selection and attitude. The latter two elements cost us the game.
Re: AFL Rd 17 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs GWS - LP - 07-08-2024
(07-08-2024, 12:51 PM)kruddler date Wrote:Go back and watch some.games from the first third of the season and come back here and say that again with a straight face.The dying moments of a game when defending a lead holds no relevance to needing to score goals in the second quarter.
Re: AFL Rd 17 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs GWS - laj - 07-08-2024
(07-08-2024, 05:47 AM)kruddler link Wrote:A few of us have mentioned the same thing in a more specific way.
But.....
Can anyone remember a single move Voss made for the night?
Was ANYONE tried in a different position?
I think the drink bottle was full of their own bath water from the MC down.
Re: AFL Rd 17 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs GWS - laj - 07-08-2024
Of our last 5 wins the foot went off the throat too often. We weren't great again GC, left percentage out there, great against Port, lazy often against Essendon, getting a left, foot off the throat, exploding in the first 15 minutes of the last qtr when they got within 15pts, then taking the foot off the throat again. Brilliant against Geelong, lazy against Richmond until challenged, then exploded, then got a lead, foot off the throat yet again against GWS and this time couldn't explode paying the price. We seem to rip sides apart as we feel like it but caught out last week. Once too often.
On the bright side means we are far from peaked.