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Re: AFL Rd 11 2023 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs Sydney - 31Tommys_barber - 05-28-2023
Our poor kicking is definitely a problem as we haven’t been able to put scoreboard pressure on all year. It also seems obvious that the spark has gone out . Maybe the club isn’t a place of mateship or fun to be at and the grind has set in. Only has to be gone 5% and we will fall away quickly.
I don’t know but if the guys who came through the tough years see a bloke who went through that with them, wanted to stay with them and honour his contract trying his guts out each week in the reserves getting 40 possessions but not even being given a sniff when injuries arise. Maybe they see the way he is unfairly treated by the coaching staff and and a little bit of resentment kicks in enough to take the edge of the all for one in it together attitude. Doesn’t take long for to drop off enough for small losses not intentionally just mentally. Same thing with Silvagni being thrown to the wolves in the ruck and stuffing up his forward game. He gives his heart and soul to the club but his game is being slowly stuffed by rucking.
Looking forward to lots of forced changes this week might be just what we need some fresh faces who have been given a chance with nothing to lose
Re: AFL Rd 11 2023 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs Sydney - ElwoodBlues1 - 05-28-2023
(05-28-2023, 05:45 AM)shawny link Wrote:Thing is EB what he explained was not any thing remarkable more just basic U16s stuff about holding the ball straight and aim directly to the middle of the goals. If our club needs that explanation to get Harry’s routine correct our club is stuffed. I beloved Harry’s issue is predominately between his ears. The guy has lost all confidence and once he sprayed too many on the snap and the media and supporters applied the heat he now is second guessing himself looks lost and confused whether to snap or go the drop punt especially in that 35-50m range. I feel for him and despite being frustrated must be an awful spot with so much pressure on him every time he lines up.Shawny, just been watching his brother play for Nth. Going about as well as Harry, outmarked by smaller players who just shove him out of the way and looks about as interested in defending as Harry does in kicking for goal.
To be a successful goal kicker it helps if you have a level of arrogance, cockiness and strong belief in your ability. Anything less and you become fickle. Then if you miss the first couple early in a game nerves take over your routine which affect the outcome.
No way would I want Ben based on what I saw today.
Often with goalkicking it is the simple things that get over looked and affect kicking, Harry does run in at angles and try and drag the ball back trying to compensate for not being in line and this is why he cant kick straight drop punts at times.
What ever he has been doing and with who isnt working and he needs a new plan and a new goalkicking coach and to settle on a routine.
Re: AFL Rd 11 2023 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs Sydney - Macca37 - 05-28-2023
(05-28-2023, 06:34 AM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:Shawny, just been watching his brother play for Nth. Going about as well as Harry, outmarked by smaller players who just shove him out of the way and looks about as interested in defending as Harry does in kicking for goal.
No way would I want Ben based on what I saw today.
Often with goalkicking it is the simple things that get over looked and affect kicking, Harry does run in at angles and try and drag the ball back trying to compensate for not being in line and this is why he cant kick straight drop punts at times.
What ever he has been doing and with who isnt working and he needs a new plan and a new goalkicking coach and to settle on a routine.
Good to get some information on Harry's brother.
As for Harry, if he did not have a set routine when kicking for goal at the time of being drafted and still does not have one after eight years as a forward, then I doubt he will ever learn.
Re: AFL Rd 11 2023 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs Sydney - Gointocarlton - 05-28-2023
(05-28-2023, 07:16 AM)Macca37 link Wrote:Good to get some information on Harry's brother.We had a specialist kicking coach (Sav Rocca), we sacked him to cut costs. I say fark off one of the other spuds and get him or a better one back at the club. Didn't StK just dump the ex Hawks kicking guru (forgot his name)?
As for Harry, if he did not have a set routine when kicking for goal at the time of being drafted and still does not have one after eight years as a forward, then I doubt he will ever learn.
Re: AFL Rd 11 2023 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs Sydney - Macca37 - 05-28-2023
Given H's salary, you would think he would have enough initiative to hire his own coach if he really wanted to improve.
Re: AFL Rd 11 2023 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs Sydney - PaulP - 05-28-2023
McKay is a Coleman Medallist. He knows how to kick, and he knows how to find the big sticks. He, like all players, has room for improvement. I'm quite convinced that the faffing about with technique and the yips in front of goal are a head space issue, and he, like a lot of our players, seems to be in a rut of some sort.
Re: AFL Rd 11 2023 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs Sydney - Blue Moon - 05-28-2023
(05-28-2023, 05:58 AM)Macca37 link Wrote:I enjoyed reading your post , but there is a contradiction.I don't think the non hitting of targets is about ability. I think it is about mind set and Club culture. So no contradiction.
You say that you think we have a very good list, and then you continue on to say the problem is that we don't hit targets by foot or by hand and then you list the further problems caused by those basic mistakes.
A recent post included a quote from Paul Roos made in 2014 and it goes to the heart of Carlton's problem right now:
'If you have got an inability to hit targets, its really hard to implement a game plan because you just can't execute the most basic
Re: AFL Rd 11 2023 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs Sydney - kruddler - 05-28-2023
(05-28-2023, 08:28 AM)Gointocarlton link Wrote:We had a specialist kicking coach (Sav Rocca), we sacked him to cut costs. I say fark off one of the other spuds and get him or a better one back at the club. Didn't StK just dump the ex Hawks kicking guru (forgot his name)?
Kicking coaches will not break the bank, and if you are serious about your football, you can ask for help off your own bat.
H has already knocked back FREE help from Fev.
I'd suggest that he spends his money on a Sports Psych instead.
Re: AFL Rd 11 2023 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs Sydney - madbluboy - 05-28-2023
Fev struggled early in his career and he reckons BT (Who he barely knew at the time) called him up and offered to help him. They had a couple of sessions on the outside ovals at Princes Park.
I think Harry was going okay with his around the corner shots but then when he misses a few the media go bananas and now he is just confused.
Re: AFL Rd 11 2023 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs Sydney - Macca37 - 05-28-2023
There is no doubt H is confused and his whole game is being affected, and going by the very clear explanation of his kicking style problems shown by MLloyd, his game will suffer until he gets help from the likes of Lloyd, Fev or Buddy Franklin.