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Re: Harry and Megan - LP - 01-11-2023
(01-11-2023, 02:53 AM)Mav date Wrote:Not sure Harry “boasted” about the 25 kills.If he's been verballed then he should sue the media, maybe he already is, because the selective quoting is making him look like public enemy No.1 and he will be more of a target because of those misquotes, and it is putting his family and friends at greater risk!
Sadly, such is the world we live in!
Re: Harry and Megan - PaulP - 01-11-2023
I agree Mav. I didn't find it boastful so much as depressing. The amount of reprogramming required to get around people's basic decency..............little wonder so many ex soldiers suffer so badly and live out their lives as barely functioning humans. The trail of devastation left by war goes well beyond the body count.
Re: Harry and Megan - Lods - 01-11-2023
So given the trauma this guy has been through (loss of a parent, war experience, the responsibilities of being a young royal at odds with his family), are we selectively picking the pieces and accounts to believe that reflect our own biases for or against the monarchy and discounting the fact that if we'd experienced similar we'd be pretty damaged human beings.
As such our thoughts and experiences would be affected and 'our truth' as we believe it would be a very real thing to us, but not necessarily 100% accurate in the eyes of others.
This goes a little bit deeper than just the 'he said, they said' conflict
Re: Harry and Megan - ElwoodBlues1 - 01-11-2023
Harry is a target with or without his kill score and so are his family and every other Royal, it comes with the job and why they spend so much on security. Not sure why people are so shocked with him killing 25 people either, its probably a lot more in reality with unaccounted for kills and with him being a gunner/weapons officer(rockets fired down to him too) on a helicopter, he wasnt being employed to polish the equipment.
What I find amusing is Harry said originally back around 2013 he compared shooting insurgents in Afghanistan to playing video games....he also said, "Take a life to save a life, "If there's people trying to do bad stuff to our guys, then we'll take them out of the game." No conscience at all in those comments so its not boasting to me just a bloke satisfied with the job he was doing and why he was doing it. Working as an active team member in the Army and not being seen as a Royal buffoon looking for a shiny medal probably made him feel normal. Reckon he should have stayed in the Army and we wouldnt have to put up with this Royal Days of our lives BS being played out on every media outlet we have now.
Re: Harry and Megan - Lods - 01-11-2023
(01-11-2023, 04:08 AM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:Harry is a target with or without his kill score and so are his family and every other Royal, it comes with the job and why they spend so much on security.One of his complaints was security for his family....but I'd suspect it may now be a lot less than it was and his movements not as controlled.
Re: Harry and Megan - kruddler - 01-11-2023
(01-11-2023, 04:07 AM)Lods link Wrote:So given the trauma this guy has been through (loss of a parent, war experience, the responsibilities of being a young royal at odds with his family), are we selectively picking the pieces and accounts to believe that reflect our own biases for or against the monarchy and discounting the fact that if we'd experienced similar we'd be pretty damaged human beings.From an outsiders point of view who has just read this thread (and generally goes at pains to avoid all monarchy gossip) the one question i have is this.
As such our thoughts and experiences would be affected and 'our truth' as we believe it would be a very real thing to us, but not necessarily 100% accurate in the eyes of others.
This goes a little bit deeper than just the 'he said, they said' conflict
Has Harry done anything wrong?
In simplistic terms, he was in a toxic environment, he left, he has discussed it (in part). If this was someone on a talkshow (somewhere between Jerry and Oprah) then he'd be hailed for doing the right thing for him and his family (wife+kids).
The sole fact it happens to be the royal family seems to be clouding peoples judgement.
He can't help what family he was born into. He has a right to feel safe, happy and free as much as the next guy.
Where is the fire?
Re: Harry and Megan - Lods - 01-11-2023
(01-11-2023, 04:25 AM)kruddler link Wrote:Where is the fire?
There probably shouldn't be one, but just when it's almost out, folks keep lighting it again.
Now there is a school of thought that we should let the whole thing just burn.
The fire brigade are buggered if they know how to put it out.
And the press are always keen to fan the flames.
Re: Harry and Megan - kruddler - 01-11-2023
(01-11-2023, 04:31 AM)Lods link Wrote:There probably shouldn't be one, but just when it's almost out, folks keep lighting it again.Who is lighting it and what fuel are they using though?
Now there is a school of thought that we should let the whole thing just burn.
The fire brigade are buggered if they know how to put it out.
And the press are always keen to fan the flames.
I don't see where the issue is. Is it simply royalists dirty on them leaving?
Re: Harry and Megan - Lods - 01-11-2023
(01-11-2023, 04:33 AM)kruddler link Wrote:Who is lighting it and what fuel are they using though?
I don't see where the issue is. Is it simply royalists dirty on them leaving?
Books and interviews are what's got the current blaze going.
Papers love it so they'll have a hundred different logs to throw on it.
(the latest one I just read is that Harry took so many psychedelic drugs they've caused him to open up too much). :
Royalists are dirty on them, they think a lot of it is made up or exaggerated.
Anti-Royalists love them and see it as the beginning of the end for the monarchy.
Many folks who watched the interviews have taken them on board without questioning them, often because of a personal bias....some have genuinely been swayed to sympathy by the interviews and to some extent changed their minds.
My personal point of view is that there is probably elements of truth in what Harry is saying, but I also believe that folks on the other end would have a completely different perspective in telling their story.
Re: Harry and Megan - kruddler - 01-11-2023
Maybe its just me, but i don't see the fascination with it all.
I said earlier, its just a trumped up reality show, and i dislike reality shows.
Hopefully, he's said whatever he feels the need to say and unburden himself, now he, and they, go on with their lives and it goes away.