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Re: God help me - the Test Cricket thread - LP - 01-14-2021
Had to laugh at Michael Vaughan claiming there is a dearth of quality spin because none are good enough to challenge Muralitharan's 800 wickets.
That's because nobody else is allowed to chuck it, and if some umpire called Muralitharan for chucking they were slammed as racists, which was just a cheap tactic used by then Sri Lankan coach Dav Whatmore to get his spinner off the hook!
Re: God help me - the Test Cricket thread - PaulP - 01-14-2021
Warney, (admittedly not someone I hold in high regard), doesn't think Murali's a chucker.
Re: God help me - the Test Cricket thread - capcom - 01-14-2021
Warne doesn't understand the rule. He IS a chucker
Re: God help me - the Test Cricket thread - Professer E - 01-14-2021
WTF, Puckovski gets dropped for a bung shoulder, but Warner plays half fit!?!
Re: God help me - the Test Cricket thread - PaulP - 01-14-2021
If true, it's a bit of a worry that a test spin blower like Warne doesn't understand the rules that pertain to his work. Murali was cleared twice by biomechanics experts, who in the course of their analysis found that other bowlers could also be construed as chuckers :
With the use of modern technology, the panel also found that legendary bowlers such as Dennis Lillee, Fred Trueman, Richard Hadlee, Curtly Ambrose, Imran Khan, Ian Botham and Allan Donald, although they looked perfect to the naked eye, also bent their arms too much when bowling, meaning they, too, were throwing.
https://www.smh.com.au/sport/cricket/bending-the-rules-on-chucking-20041112-gdk3k3.html
My guess is that this all started to look like a can of worms, and the cricket authorities decided to leave it at that. Murali will go down as one of those controversial, polarising figures that appear to be legion in the sporting world.
And Darrell Hair is not exactly a great character.
Re: God help me - the Test Cricket thread - capcom - 01-14-2021
Darrel Hair's character is not in question here Paul. He wasn't the only (OZ) umpire to call him. Got that laptop yet?
Re: God help me - the Test Cricket thread - Professer E - 01-14-2021
Yep, under the rules of the time he was a chucker and the assassination of Hairs umpiring was a blot on the cricketing community. When you change the rules to accommodate an individual you're swimming in dangerous waters.
Re: God help me - the Test Cricket thread - PaulP - 01-14-2021
(01-14-2021, 05:45 AM)capcom link Wrote:Darrel Hair's character is not in question here Paul. He wasn't the only (OZ) umpire to call him. Got that laptop yet?
Hair's character is not the main part of my post, which I note you ignored.
We did end up buying the laptop. It's been sitting on the shelf for a few weeks owing to the internal speaker not working. It was fixed just a couple of hours ago via remote IT support.
Thanks for asking.
Re: God help me - the Test Cricket thread - PaulP - 01-14-2021
https://www.inuth.com/sports/muttiah-muralitharans-no-ball-controversy-steve-waugh-reveals-it-all-after-22-years/
Re: God help me - the Test Cricket thread - LP - 01-14-2021
(01-14-2021, 05:29 AM)PaulP date Wrote:With the use of modern technology, the panel also found that legendary bowlers such as Dennis Lillee, Fred Trueman, Richard Hadlee, Curtly Ambrose, Imran Khan, Ian Botham and Allan Donald, although they looked perfect to the naked eye, also bent their arms too much when bowling, meaning they, too, were throwing.That was the biggest crock of crap of all time. I competed in Australia's fastest bowler competition with Lillee, Thompson, Hurst and others, as did many young fast bowlers around the country. The competition was actually conducted by Lillee's surgeon as part of a study about stress injuries on fast bowlers backs. We all got to see bowling actions side on in super slow motion, we bowled in front of a huge piece of graph paper being filmed by a high speed camera.
The truth is that under enough force at the moment of delivery a fast bowlers arm bends, like a fishing rod, but the Murali boosters tried to paint that as straightening your arm by more than 5°. Lillee, Thompson, Hurst, all of them bowled with locked elbows, Murali bowled with an elbow flick like somebody making a back-handed throw.
You can mimic Murali's action by holding your arm up in front of your face, scratching your head then straightening your arm, the elbow faced the batsmen when he bowled the wrong-un, that's why it was a throw.
When Murali was investigated he point blank refused to bowl in short sleeves, because he said he suffered duress due to a deformity in his arm.
After the Whatmore racism claims were aired they all went quiet, none of the players, past-players or officials wanted the grief they would get when playing or working in the sub-continent. Back in those days foreigners were being kidnapped or blown up in Columbo regularly!
btw., Steve Waugh pumps up Murali as the best because he genuinely hates Warne's guts and he knows it gets under Warne's skin!