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Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - Lods - 03-16-2020

How can a group of young men possibly have their total concentration on playing football at this time....especially when a look into the stands will reinforce that these are not normal times.

Stop it before it starts
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Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - LP - 03-16-2020

(03-16-2020, 05:32 AM)cookie2 date Wrote:Seems inevitable now. Gee, looking forward to weeks of possible isolation with no footy on tv!!  :o  Sad
Food and cookie shortage as well, you can't even grow fat and hibernate!

I think I missed the best advice going back a couple of weeks ago, stock up on grog and sleep it off!

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - LP - 03-17-2020

I'm not going to comment on the severity or validity of the COVID-19 outbreak, I'm neither qualified or informed sufficiently to discuss it in any detail.

But I will make commentary about human behavior, in particular both political and the 4th estate.

Politicians are pissweak, some of the worst weather-vane human-beings that you will ever likely come across. Incapable of standing firm under social or media pressure, they fold at the hint of a poll for reasons of personal benefit, be it a bogus poll or otherwise!

The 4th Estate are culpable. Hiding behind banners of equality and community they destroy society for profit. Knowing fully that all opinions are not equal they willfully publishing crackpots and lunatics to apply pressure to people and officials for profit, they do so under the false pretenses of equality and anti-discrimination. Nothing more and nothing less, there isn't a one of them that is worth pissing on if they were on fire! Don't shoot the messenger is their defense, but what if it's the messenger and the message that does you the most harm?

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - Baggers - 03-17-2020

I hope The Age don't mind me posting this story of theirs from Health Journalist Melissa Cunningham. A very important positive story amid the avalanche of bad news. Here it is:

Melbourne researchers have mapped the immune responses from one of Australia's coronavirus patients discovering for the first time how humans fight off the deadly virus, in the hope it could hold the secret to finding an effective vaccine.
By understanding how our bodies fight the deadly virus, researchers at Melbourne's Peter Doherty Institute for Infection say their findings could also fast-track treatments for the disease.
Scientists are searching for a breakthrough in the development of a coronavirus vaccine. CREDIT:AAP

As part of a study, the scientists tested at four different points in time blood samples of a woman in her mid-40s who had recently returned to Melbourne from Wuhan, the epicentre of the global outbreak of coronavirus.
The woman, who tested positive to COVID-19, was suffering from lethargy, sore throat, dry cough and a high fever when she presented at a Melbourne hospital.

Doctors took four blood samples before and after her recovery and identified the antibodies recruited by the body to fight the illness.
Laboratory head Katherine Kedzierska said the scientists found the woman's immune system responded to coronavirus in the similar way humans fight off influenza.
This suggests an otherwise healthy person could be expected to fight off a mild to moderate case of coronavirus in about three days.
"We found that although COVID-19 is caused by a new virus, in a previously healthy patient robust immune responses can be elicited and associated with clinical recovery," she said.
"What we found was that three days after the patient was admitted, we saw large populations of several immune cells, which are often a telltale sign of recovery during seasonal influenza infection, so we predicted that the patient would recover in three days, which is exactly what happened."
The findings, published in Nature Medicine Journal on Tuesday, are the first time a broad immune responses to COVID-19 has been reported globally.
Professor Kedzierska was hopeful their findings would help in the race for an effective vaccine.
"This is an incredible step forward in understanding what drives recovery of COVID-19," she said. "People can use our methods to understand the immune responses in larger COVID-19 cohorts, and also understand what’s lacking in those who have fatal outcomes."
The Doherty Institute's infectious disease specialist Irani Thevarajan had been planning for years for a global infectious disease outbreak that could affect Australia.
Her team had already set up a broad range of biological sampling to be used to test returned travellers in the event of a new and unexpected infectious disease outbreak.
When she heard of a mysterious new type of pneumonia sweeping through China and killing people, she sprang to action.
"When COVID-19 emerged, we already had ethics and protocols in place so we could rapidly start looking at the virus and immune system in great detail," Dr Thevarajan said.
Dr Thevarajan said current estimates show more than 80 per cent of COVID-19 cases are mild-to-moderate, and understanding the immune response in these mild cases is very important research.
"We hope to now expand our work nationally and internationally to understand why some people die from COVID-19, and build further knowledge to assist in the rapid response of COVID-19 and future emerging viruses," she said.
Melissa Cunningham
Melissa Cunningham is The Age's health reporter.


Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - LP - 03-17-2020

(03-17-2020, 01:40 AM)Baggers date Wrote:Doctors took four blood samples before and after her recovery and identified the antibodies recruited by the body to fight the illness.
Laboratory head Katherine Kedzierska said the scientists found the woman's immune system responded to coronavirus in the similar way humans fight off influenza.

This suggests an otherwise healthy person could be expected to fight off a mild to moderate case of coronavirus in about three days.

"We found that although COVID-19 is caused by a new virus, in a previously healthy patient robust immune responses can be elicited and associated with clinical recovery," she said.

"What we found was that three days after the patient was admitted, we saw large populations of several immune cells, which are often a telltale sign of recovery during seasonal influenza infection, so we predicted that the patient would recover in three days, which is exactly what happened."
Who'd have thunk it, people who get the Flu vaccine might actually be better placed to fight of COVID-19, as vaccines elicit a an immune response!

Take that anti-vaxers, it smells like,
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Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - PaulP - 03-17-2020

Good stuff Shano. Thanks for posting. No time for complacency, and unfortunately the high risk demographics will always be high risk, but that was a good read. 

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - rocky - 03-17-2020

(03-17-2020, 12:44 AM)LP link Wrote:The 4th Estate are culpable. Hiding behind banners of equality and community they destroy society for profit. Knowing fully that all opinions are not equal they wilfully publishing crackpots and lunatics to apply pressure to people and officials for profit, they do so under the false pretences of equality and anti-discrimination. Nothing more and nothing less, there isn't a one of them that is worth pissing on if they were on fire! Don't shoot the messenger is their defence, but what if it's the messenger and the message that does you the most harm?
Best post since this whole disaster started. How these mothers haven't been held to account for what is going on in our supermarkets beggars belief.

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - Gointocarlton - 03-17-2020

(03-17-2020, 12:44 AM)LP link Wrote:But I will make commentary about human behavior, in particular both political and the 4th estate.
HS reporting a Woollies worker has been stabbed at Rosebud, he has been airlifted to hospital with non life threatening injuries. The offender is at large.
A bashing occured at a Coles in Brunswick and shoppers intervened and pinned him down until police arrived. The good and the bad are highlighted here.
WTF is wrong with people?

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - Macca37 - 03-17-2020

My wife and I are in the high risk age group and being advised with dire warnings on tv and the print media that for our own protection we must self isolate for an indeterminate number of months.

Yet today, without any comment from media commentators, we see photos of hundreds of people in the high risk age group herded together, some  waiting for hours,  to shop for one hour  in supermarkets.

It is expected that this phenomenon will continue for five days a week, week in week out. 









Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - Macca37 - 03-17-2020

I pressed the post button too soon.

Surely there is no better way of ensuring this vulnerable group will contract CV.