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Re: Pre-Game Pressure: AFL 2019 Rd 6: Carlton vs Hawthorn in Launceston - LP - 04-26-2019
(04-26-2019, 03:10 AM)flyboy77 link Wrote:https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/curnow-in-limbo-but-extra-tall-forward-line-is-no-problem-bolton-20190426-p51hho.html
There are a lot of naysayers, this won't work, that won't work, too many talls, too many rucks, too many defenders all of it unfounded.
I have to admit I have my doubts, but mostly around picking players of a type ahead of players in form.
If the players are in good form, then the whole scenario changes and just about anything can work!
Just being curious about the thoughts of forum members. After last week's McKay game, what if the running man role was reversed between McKay and Charlie, an inform McKay seriously looks like he could rotate through this role without trouble. It might be just what Charlie needs!
Re: Pre-Game Pressure: AFL 2019 Rd 6: Carlton vs Hawthorn in Launceston - DJC - 04-26-2019
(04-25-2019, 01:50 PM)townsendcalling link Wrote:Lebois is still not selected in the twos
He’s done a hammy!
Re: Pre-Game Pressure: AFL 2019 Rd 6: Carlton vs Hawthorn in Launceston - WASurfer - 04-26-2019
Agree Fly....I was advocating for Bolton as a very late pick in the draft last year but given how we've gone so far through the middle he's probably not exactly what we need right at the minute with Setterfield still to come back into the lineup.
Re: Pre-Game Pressure: AFL 2019 Rd 6: Carlton vs Hawthorn in Launceston - laj - 04-26-2019
(04-26-2019, 03:17 AM)LP link Wrote:There are a lot of naysayers, this won't work, that won't work, too many talls, too many rucks, too many defenders all of it unfounded.
I have to admit I have my doubts, but mostly around picking players of a type ahead of players in form.
If the players are in good form, then the whole scenario changes and just about anything can work!
Just being curious about the thoughts of forum members. After last week's McKay game, what if the running man role was reversed between McKay and Charlie, an inform McKay seriously looks like he could rotate through this role without trouble. It might be just what Charlie needs!
We'll put 22 talls in there then and see how that works. Not hard to work out that 4 talls forwards just exposes us when the ball hits the ground, and the ball will be on the ground very often. It's too many. Only way Io want all 4 playing is if they put Charlie in the midfield otherwise leave one out. Against GC McKay looked a lost soul with 4 talls forwards there.
Re: Pre-Game Pressure: AFL 2019 Rd 6: Carlton vs Hawthorn in Launceston - LP - 04-26-2019
(04-26-2019, 03:36 AM)laj link Wrote:We'll put 22 talls in there then and see how that works. Not hard to work out that 4 talls forwards just exposes us when the ball hits the ground, and the ball will be on the ground very often. It's too many. Only way Io want all 4 playing is if they put Charlie in the midfield otherwise leave one out. Against GC McKay looked a lost soul with 4 talls forwards there.
If you have 22 talls, with some that can move like Cripps, McKay and Charlie when they are in form, it's not going to be an issue.
I think the idea you can have too many of one type is highly over-rated, Leigh Matthews said he want a team of 22 Koutafides yet Kouta had some significant deficiencies in parts of his a game.
Horses for courses is a much better policy, with form based selection taking priority over a type!
Formulaic selection and coaching is a long term tactical dead end, it's what brought MM undone! No matter how good your plan, if the opposition know it they will bring you undone!
Re: Pre-Game Pressure: AFL 2019 Rd 6: Carlton vs Hawthorn in Launceston - Thryleon - 04-26-2019
(04-26-2019, 03:42 AM)LP link Wrote:If you have 22 talls, with some that can move like Cripps, McKay and Charlie when they are in form, it's not going to be an issue.
I think the idea you can have too many of one type is highly over-rated, Leigh Matthews said he want a team of 22 Koutafides yet Kouta had some significant deficiencies in parts of his a game.
Horses for courses is a much better policy, with form based selection taking priority over a type!
Formulaic selection and coaching is a long term tactical dead end, it's what brought MM undone! No matter how good your plan, if the opposition know it they will bring you undone!
Yep form is a good guide but class is permanent. You can from chocolates to boiled lollies all in one game and vice versa.
For reference see fevola when he got stuck on 99. He started the game with 92 goals, had 5 or so shots before half time to convert once, then kicked 6 in the second half.
Re: Pre-Game Pressure: AFL 2019 Rd 6: Carlton vs Hawthorn in Launceston - LP - 04-26-2019
(04-26-2019, 03:49 AM)Thryleon link Wrote:Yep form is a good guide but class is permanent. You can from chocolates to boiled lollies all in one game and vice versa.
For reference see fevola when he got stuck on 99. He started the game with 92 goals, had 5 or so shots before half time to convert once, then kicked 6 in the second half.
Eleven shots at goal is good form, whether you are kicking straight or not makes no difference.
I suppose that tells you it's possible to be in good form and still play bad football, perhaps that was the point some had made about Charlie having a midfielder type work rate despite some poor returns.
Re: Pre-Game Pressure: AFL 2019 Rd 6: Carlton vs Hawthorn in Launceston - Thryleon - 04-26-2019
(04-26-2019, 03:51 AM)LP link Wrote:Eleven shots at goal is good form, whether you are kicking straight or not makes no difference.
I suppose that tells you it's possible to be in good form and still play bad football, perhaps that was the point some had made about Charlie having a midfielder type work rate despite some poor returns.
The point is fevola who is one of the games best ever forwards had weitering form all in one match.
Sometimes players can play through a form slump and be more valuable than others who are in cherry ripe form.
Re: Pre-Game Pressure: AFL 2019 Rd 6: Carlton vs Hawthorn in Launceston - LP - 04-26-2019
(04-26-2019, 03:58 AM)Thryleon link Wrote:The point is fevola who is one of the games best ever forwards had weitering form all in one match.
Sometimes players can play through a form slump and be more valuable than others who are in cherry ripe form.
True, all in one match, not four or five weeks in a row and while carrying an injury!
Media was all about what magic happened last week with McKay, but he was already at the top of the contested marking table which they just hadn't noticed. So they report his game last week like it's a miracle form reversal!
Re: Pre-Game Pressure: AFL 2019 Rd 6: Carlton vs Hawthorn in Launceston - townsendcalling - 04-26-2019
(04-26-2019, 03:49 AM)Thryleon link Wrote:For reference see fevola when he got stuck on 99.
With 6 / 6 /6 Fev would have got the ton that day. Very hard to forgive Sniper Clarkson for his actions that day. Hawthorn players were embarrassed to follow his orders.