(07-08-2018, 12:10 AM)cookie2 link Wrote:Can't get the full BB presser for some reason but in the short version he reiterates, yet again, the need to be challenged and to work hard, really hard! I would think there should be some consideration given to working a bit smarter?? Doubling down on methods that are not leading to any consistent signs of improvement surely just leads to more frustration and more failure? I'm obviously not privy to any of the details but it seems like this has become something like the blind application of a dogma. I'm very concerned (understatement!).

Quote:I now also believe Liddles "we dont want a priority pick" was a strategic ploy to actually draw one from the AFL (ie to divert attention away from any tanking debates). The AFL will not allow us to go through a season with one win and not give us PP. I reckon the club would be loving the media (like King) saying we are soulless and not playing for the jumper etc etc. Notice not one journo has used the T word yet? Maybe the club is cleverer than what we all thought. Conspiracy theory? Is it possible to manufacture the outcomes? Most will say probably not but something doesn't add up for mine. Maybe I have been reading too many LP posts (only joking fella) ;D ;D ;D

(07-08-2018, 12:02 AM)Gointocarlton link Wrote:But I also have a conspiracy theory. I said in a post that we are either tanking to ensure we get pick one or the coach and MC are clueless. Given BB came from a successful system, I don't believe its the latter. I personally believe they are manipulating the dot points I listed above to manufacture a convenient outcome. I now also believe Liddles "we dont want a priority pick" was a strategic ploy to actually draw one from the AFL (ie to divert attention away from any tanking debates). The AFL will not allow us to go through a season with one win and not give us PP. I reckon the club would be loving the media (like King) saying we are soulless and not playing for the jumper etc etc. Notice not one journo has used the T word yet? Maybe the club is cleverer than what we all thought. Conspiracy theory? Is it possible to manufacture the outcomes? Most will say probably not but something doesn't add up for mine. Maybe I have been reading too many LP posts (only joking fella) ;D ;D ;D

(07-08-2018, 12:10 AM)PaulP link Wrote:GTC, I don't mind that post. It's not all that implausible IMO.

At any rate, the end of this season can't come quick enough IMO.

(07-08-2018, 12:02 AM)Gointocarlton link Wrote:Here's is my simplistic (and perhaps naive) view of the situation. Whether we win or lose all the remaining games for the year:
- I will buy into the reasoning from the powers that be that this year was predicted to be our worst due to the turnover of players and the age profile being worst case.
- I will also buy into the fact that the injuries to key players has further tested our lack of depth and hence why we are one win from fifteen.
- I will partly accept that yesterday losing losing Simmo, Phillips and Marchy (albeit late), our structure was completely thrown into chaos (again lack of experienced depth).
But I'll tell you something fo free, this is the last time I will buy into any such excuses from the club. I'll write this year off based on the above, but thats it. If we are 0-5 or even 0-3 at the start of 2019, the board must go immediately and the coach and all his assistants must go at the end of the year (if not sooner). Its time for the club to grow some balls, plan for it now and either live or die by the sword. They can't keep stringing us along with BS, I refuse to accept anymore results like yesterday or the Freo game. I get the rebuild thing and doing it properly and I have been happy to see the "unCarlton" approach taken to date, but I have reached the end of my tether. My faith has now waivered and I need realignment.
But I also have a conspiracy theory. I said in a post that we are either tanking to ensure we get pick one or the coach and MC are clueless. Given BB came from a successful system, I don't believe its the latter. I personally believe they are manipulating the dot points I listed above to manufacture a convenient outcome. I now also believe Liddles "we dont want a priority pick" was a strategic ploy to actually draw one from the AFL (ie to divert attention away from any tanking debates). The AFL will not allow us to go through a season with one win and not give us PP. I reckon the club would be loving the media (like King) saying we are soulless and not playing for the jumper etc etc. Notice not one journo has used the T word yet? Maybe the club is cleverer than what we all thought. Conspiracy theory? Is it possible to manufacture the outcomes? Most will say probably not but something doesn't add up for mine. Maybe I have been reading too many LP posts (only joking fella) ;D ;D ;D

(07-07-2018, 01:27 PM)Spanner link Wrote:You're obviously pleased with his output. I suppose some are easier pleased than others. But hey, I'm not here to judge...

(07-08-2018, 12:21 AM)Lods link Wrote:Something certainly doesn't add up.

There's such a dramatic difference between games where we bring effort and games when we don't seem to have that same attitude.
The problem I'm having is that you can almost predict which Carlton side will show up following the team selections on a Thursday night.
The fact that it's predictable indicates to me there are a few things going on and being manipulated behind the scenes.

It's a dangerous game though.
Angry supporters are one thing.
Wealthy angry powerbrokers are another story...and if they surface and gain momentum the best laid plans may suddenly be out the window.

(07-08-2018, 12:27 AM)laj link Wrote:Murphy's had an excellent career. You're just a hater with no idea.