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Re: AFLW Rd 1: Carlton vs Collingwood at Ikon Park - madbluboy - 02-06-2018
Quote:CARLTON women’s coach Damien Keeping — who is in hospital with a mystery condition — is in the sights of the AFL for his ultra-defensive game plan.
The AFL is furious with the tactics Keeping successfully employed against Collingwood in the AFLW season opener on Friday night and has voiced its dismay to the Blues.
In effect, the AFL has ordered Carlton to play a more open brand of football.
One opposition coach described Carlton’s game style as the return of “Rodney Eade’s flood’’, a reference to Eade’s groundbreaking but controversial tactic used at Sydney in the mid-1990s.
Re: AFLW Rd 1: Carlton vs Collingwood at Ikon Park - Lods - 02-06-2018
Quote:CARLTON women’s coach Damien Keeping — who is in hospital with a mystery condition — is in the sights of the AFL for his ultra-defensive game plan.
The AFL is furious with the tactics Keeping successfully employed against Collingwood in the AFLW season opener on Friday night and has voiced its dismay to the Blues.
In effect, the AFL has ordered Carlton to play a more open brand of football.
One opposition coach described Carlton’s game style as the return of “Rodney Eade’s flood’’, a reference to Eade’s groundbreaking but controversial tactic used at Sydney in the mid-1990s.
The credibility of any competition is that it not be "contrived."
Some critics probably already feel that's the case with this competition.
Teams must be allowed to use tactics that give them the best possible chances of winning.
If that's a concern for the AFL then change the rules.
Re: AFLW Rd 1: Carlton vs Collingwood at Ikon Park - Baggers - 02-06-2018
(02-06-2018, 09:46 PM)Lods link Wrote:The credibility of any competition is that it not be "contrived."
Some critics probably already feel that's the case with this competition.
Teams must be allowed to use tactics that give them the best possible chances of winning.
If that's a concern for the AFL then change the rules.
Well said, Principal LODS. What a lazy solution to the problem of low scoring from the AFL - tell the coaches to be less defensive. They've been training all pre season to adopt a certain style and the AFL comes up with this! Breathtaking shortsightedness and simplistic thinking. Yep, alter the rules to be fair to all...
Re: AFLW Rd 1: Carlton vs Collingwood at Ikon Park - Navy Maven - 02-06-2018
(02-06-2018, 09:46 PM)Lods link Wrote:The credibility of any competition is that it not be "contrived."
Some critics probably already feel that's the case with this competition.
Teams must be allowed to use tactics that give them the best possible chances of winning.
If that's a concern for the AFL then change the rules.
This made me so angry. A team is smart enough to employ a winning strategy but the AFL doesn't like the look of it, so they want them to change? Gil needs to FRO. If the club bows down to this I'll be extremely disappointed. You should always play to your strengths, our strength is our A Grade defence. We didn't give up the kitchen sink to bring in Nicola Stevens just for shits and giggles, we did it for further strengthen our backline.
Re: AFLW Rd 1: Carlton vs Collingwood at Ikon Park - Navy Maven - 02-06-2018
(02-06-2018, 11:11 AM)No1inParticular link Wrote:Still lurking around buddy.
Don't post much during the summertime. For obvious reasons. :o
But, get my NAVY groove on come late March...
Steph played a ripper on Friday. Any chance she can defect at the end of the season?
Re: AFLW Rd 1: Carlton vs Collingwood at Ikon Park - madbluboy - 02-07-2018
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/aflw/daniel-harford-says-afl-needs-to-be-careful-what-message-it-sends-over-aflw-competition/news-story/c45bfffbf4c09715587b327d8dde5c33
http://www.news.com.au/sport/sports-life/garry-lyon-takes-aim-at-the-afl-for-undermining-the-aflw/news-story/5e7a3b73e829a49287b2b39862ef629e
Re: AFLW Rd 1: Carlton vs Collingwood at Ikon Park - Baggers - 02-07-2018
(02-07-2018, 12:55 AM)madbluboy link Wrote:http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/aflw/daniel-harford-says-afl-needs-to-be-careful-what-message-it-sends-over-aflw-competition/news-story/c45bfffbf4c09715587b327d8dde5c33
http://www.news.com.au/sport/sports-life/garry-lyon-takes-aim-at-the-afl-for-undermining-the-aflw/news-story/5e7a3b73e829a49287b2b39862ef629e
Good articles.
I'm still speechless that the AFL could be so stupid re scoring comments. Lyon is right... decide whether you want a ridgey didge/authentic representation of our game or a show piece. If they want a high scoring show piece, make it touch-footy style - no tackling. Can't have it both ways... sheesh, there really are some c0ckheads at the AFL.
Re: AFLW Rd 1: Carlton vs Collingwood at Ikon Park - LP - 02-07-2018
It's either a fair dinkum competition or it's entertainment.
If it's entertainment then why bother with drafts, trades and coaches, etc., etc. That would be making just a womens version of the little league!
Carlton is coping some blame in the media courtesy of Maguire's mob, but the Collingwood assistant coach has already come out and stated both clubs were to blame for defensive tactics. And that is natural given the state of player development.
As I've already stated in earlier posts, the first part of "The game" that gets better when fitness and strength are sorted is tagging and defense. Eventually the attacking players will learn to deal with tags and zones, but at the moment they have never experienced anything like it.
At the weekend Collingwoods forward moves were mindless with them often bombing the ball from the HFF instead of working their way through the zone. The only different between Carlton's zone and Collingwoods zone was that ours setup at CHB while the Collingwood zone setup across the midfield. We ended up with play mostly between the arcs.
Another part of the problem at the weekend was the slow adjudication of things like the new Last Touch Rule. I cannot see why it's isn't just played to advantage like any other free, but the dealt it out like it was a mark and forced players to go back and kick over the mark from outside the boundary preventing play on!
PS; It's moronic to think that high scoring is the only entertaining part of AFL, the pressure the girls applied last weekend compared to last season was enormous. It just goes to show you how shallow some people think, I bet some of the same people watch EPL and think it's great!
Re: AFLW Rd 1: Carlton vs Collingwood at Ikon Park - No1inParticular - 02-07-2018
(02-06-2018, 11:45 PM)Navy Maven link Wrote:Steph played a ripper on Friday. Any chance she can defect at the end of the season?
I'm afraid she's firmly entrenched at Pieland ATM.
Re: AFLW Rd 1: Carlton vs Collingwood at Ikon Park - No1inParticular - 02-07-2018
(02-06-2018, 11:31 AM)DJC link Wrote:Nice interview on the wireless
The Navy groove came over loud and clear, even if tempered by the rightfully proud parent responses
Thanks DJC.
Was wondering if any1 was listening. :o