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Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - tonyo - 10-27-2020

(10-27-2020, 12:21 AM)LP link Wrote:The media have largely ignored the hypocrisy in the Trump diagnosis and treatment, it isn't like the flu, he was rapidly, radically and aggressively treated when first diagnosed. People should do the very opposite of what he stated and be quite scared and careful, because the vast bulk of general society won't get his treatment no matter how wealthy they may be!

Do we really even know if he had it?  Remarkable recovery for a 74 yo, really, only 3 days, with virtually no apparent lingering issues (and his driver didn't even wear a mask when Trump was taken for a drive-by in his hospital gown).  That, together with so many conflicting stories of how he was treated, make me wonder if he hasn't pulled a massive pre-election stunt.  His spin doctors would be only too aware that Boris Johnson's approval rating skyrocketed after he was hospitalised with COVID.  Just what a flagging Presidential candidate needed.

And now he can stand up at rallies and debates and say he knows exactly what it's like to have COVID and it's not so bad.....

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - LP - 10-27-2020

(10-27-2020, 02:55 AM)tonyo date Wrote:And now he can stand up at rallies and debates and say he knows exactly what it's like to have COVID and it's not so bad.....
Hmmm,  "It's not so bad  ............. if it's detected and treated early!"

Boris was ill and tried to push through by self-isolating before being hospitalised, I doubt he was treated the same way as Trump, or perhaps that Trump still is for that matter! I notice Melania Trump is pretty much fully masked now, no doubt she knows what a more serious dose is like courtesy of her loving husband!

Even worse for the COVID naysayers, repeat infections are now being confirmed all over the globe meaning there is either no herd immunity or if some herd immunity exists it is very short lived.

By his inaction and wilful misinformation, Trump has probably caused more additional American COVID deaths than the Vietnam and Korean wars combined!

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - Thryleon - 10-27-2020

(10-27-2020, 02:55 AM)tonyo link Wrote:Do we really even know if he had it?  Remarkable recovery for a 74 yo, really, only 3 days, with virtually no apparent lingering issues (and his driver didn't even wear a mask when Trump was taken for a drive-by in his hospital gown).  That, together with so many conflicting stories of how he was treated, make me wonder if he hasn't pulled a massive pre-election stunt.  His spin doctors would be only too aware that Boris Johnson's approval rating skyrocketed after he was hospitalised with COVID.  Just what a flagging Presidential candidate needed.

And now he can stand up at rallies and debates and say he knows exactly what it's like to have COVID and it's not so bad.....

That was my theory.

His whole point has been to deny covid was a real issue, and largely the election hinges on this, which is possibly why they are spiking in numbers so great to go with the rest of the northern hemisphere.

Also, they are holding stimulus to ransom for similar reasons.  They are trying to blame Biden's camp for not coming to an agreement regarding stimulus but meanwhile, I remember reading somewhere that Trump took control of the Fed not that long ago to help print money.

What that means, is that once the election is over, stimulus will return but by then it will be a bridge too far.

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - LP - 10-27-2020

Aircrews including flight attendants dressed in full PPE.

How safe is that going to make you feel next time you fly, if ever?

btw., The concept seems a bit misplaced and I think perhaps more about employer liability than anything else.

Some recent reports suggest the airport is far more dangerous than the aircraft cabin, although I realise this is hard to accept. But as I understand it most or many modern aircraft turnover the full volume of cabin air several times per-hour and have specific air flows designed to shower passengers with warmed and humidified externally sourced air. The fundamental concept seems to be you are safer is a small volume space that is well ventilated, than a high volume space that is poorly ventilated.

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - LP - 10-27-2020

(10-27-2020, 04:11 AM)Thryleon date Wrote:What that means, is that once the election is over, stimulus will return but by then it will be a bridge too far.
In a country, that has COVID running rampant through it's population, where you have to empty your wallet for basic health care and no real controls over the cost of medication other than interventions by the Supreme Court. How the feck does getting $500 in your pocket help?

It's like offering you a gold star while standing you in front of the firing squad!

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - Mav - 10-27-2020

(10-27-2020, 04:11 AM)Thryleon link Wrote:Also, they are holding stimulus to ransom for similar reasons.  They are trying to blame Biden's camp for not coming to an agreement regarding stimulus but meanwhile, I remember reading somewhere that Trump took control of the Fed not that long ago to help print money.
Biden has no role in this. It’s up to Congress & the White House, and this is often summarised as Pelosi, McConnell & Trump. Americans with an interest in politics would know Steve Mnuchin (Trump’s man) & Pelosi were in negotiations but McConnell warned Trump not to make a deal as fiscally conservative Republican Senators didn’t want to approve any deal.

It’s easy for Aussies to make the error of conflating Congressional Democrats with Biden. In our system, it goes without saying that the Prime Minister and the Opposition Leader control parliamentary votes. But while Biden and Pelosi are both Democrats, Biden won’t control Pelosi if he wins the election. They will have their own battles and Biden will have to negotiate with Pelosi to make sure he gets the sort of legislation he needs through Congress.

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - LP - 10-27-2020

Not confirmed, but I read reports the COVID cost to the US economy is now reported as $3.8T, which is apparently about 15% of US GDP, on top of nearly $500B in direct stimulus packages.

Shizen that's like US$4000 per person?

How the feck is this good fiscal management?

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - ElwoodBlues1 - 10-28-2020

Bit of inside gossip from the medical world...Vic Nurses being recruited for Covid Vaccination's...

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - cookie2 - 10-28-2020

(10-28-2020, 01:44 AM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:Bit of inside gossip from the medical world...Vic Nurses being recruited for Covid Vaccination's...

Very interesting EB. Also heard today that about 150 Vic gov staff are being redeployed and trained as hotel quarantine staff. The training includes aspects of the prison officer training course apparently.

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - LP - 10-28-2020

(10-28-2020, 01:44 AM)ElwoodBlues1 date Wrote:Bit of inside gossip from the medical world...Vic Nurses being recruited for Covid Vaccination's...
Yes, I read they are testing a potential prophylactic, not a vaccine, it is only being targeted for health professionals.

There was a smaller trial of about 300 medicos that has shown some promise in reducing the deleterious effects of a bout of COVID, and now it's being extended to about 10000 staff. But as I understand it, it doesn't stop infection, just reduces the severity and may also reduce the transmission.