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Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2021 Rd 8: Carlton vs Western Bulldogs - Gointocarlton - 05-10-2021
Zac Williams was door stopped at PP yesterday, said he is still learning to play midfield. The most expensive trainer wheels in the comp, FMD!
Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2021 Rd 8: Carlton vs Western Bulldogs - flyboy77 - 05-10-2021
(05-10-2021, 02:14 PM)LoveNavy link Wrote:My tip was Dogs by 26. While the result was slightly more favorable, it's the drop off that has me worried. We've all said it. 5, 6, 7, 8 unanswered goals kills any confidence we have of moving up the ladder. This, in my mind, is where leadership comes in. Or doesn't. If our leaders are injured, they shouldn't be on the ground.
I know we've had a tough injury run, but we also talk up our depth. I'm not convinced we have depth.
On a positive note, Cunningham is as smooth as they come. I'm pleased he's performing atm. Eddie had his tricks on show and looks like he's enjoying his footy. As is his understudy - Owies. Well done to H. He's finally having a great run of form and showing his potential.
We had the better of the 2nd best team for the best part of 3 quarters....without any real input from two supposed A graders or close to - Cripps and Williams. And a few others doing little too.
Had we kicked a few more of those very gettable goals earlier (SOJ and Fog), I reckon we would have won it. 40 odd up is far more imposing than 27.
Still, it's a loss in the books and we sit 3-5 with tough games ahead....
No excuses for what happened out of the centre in Q4 - that's on DT and his team as much as the players/leaders.
Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2021 Rd 8: Carlton vs Western Bulldogs - Gointocarlton - 05-10-2021
(05-10-2021, 09:31 PM)flyboy77 link Wrote:We had the better of the 2nd best team for the best part of 3 quarters....without any real input from two supposed A graders or close to - Cripps and Williams. And a few others doing little too.Was thinking about this, is Teague better off coaching from the bench? Would it allow him to deliver messages quicker to the players in situations like Sunday?
Had we kicked a few more of those very gettable goals earlier (SOJ and Fog), I reckon we would have won it. 40 odd up is far more imposing than 27.
Still, it's a loss in the books and we sit 3-5 with tough games ahead....
No excuses for what happened out of the centre in Q4 - that's on DT and his team as much as the players/leaders.
Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2021 Rd 8: Carlton vs Western Bulldogs - flyboy77 - 05-10-2021
(05-10-2021, 09:34 PM)Gointocarlton link Wrote:Was thinking about this, is Teague better off coaching from the bench? Would it allow him to deliver messages quicker to the players in situations like Sunday?
Who knows GITC, but sitting in the box staring vacantly through the glass doesn't push my buttons.
Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2021 Rd 8: Carlton vs Western Bulldogs - cookie2 - 05-10-2021
(05-10-2021, 09:30 PM)Gointocarlton link Wrote:Zac Williams was door stopped at PP yesterday, said he is still learning to play midfield. The most expensive trainer wheels in the comp, FMD!
Saw that and I think he meant "midfield at Carlton ", but nevertheless not the best choice of words.
Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2021 Rd 8: Carlton vs Western Bulldogs - northernblue - 05-10-2021
I hope our boys spend as much time rewatching our first Q against the dogs as they will the last.
The dogs were swarming all over us in the first, we weathered it then we countered.
When they realise that they need to be 100% switched on for 4/4 Q then we’ll play like a premiership team, until then they need to keep building belief.
Another thing that struck me was how physically developed the doggies are, all extremely powerful, a mature hardened team.
Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2021 Rd 8: Carlton vs Western Bulldogs - flyboy77 - 05-10-2021
(05-10-2021, 09:44 PM)cookie2 link Wrote:Saw that and I think he meant "midfield at Carlton ", but nevertheless not the best choice of words.
he simply needs to be dropped.
9 touches is pathetic.
Either he's not fit, therefore a liability in the 1s, or he's apathetic right now.....
Either way, dropped.
Teague needs to send a message.
Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2021 Rd 8: Carlton vs Western Bulldogs - Micky0 - 05-10-2021
The Cripps phone conversation mentioned earlier, was interesting / it went on for a long time and he seemed to be irritated by what was being said. Any thoughts?
Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2021 Rd 8: Carlton vs Western Bulldogs - Gointocarlton - 05-10-2021
(05-10-2021, 09:37 PM)flyboy77 link Wrote:Who knows GITC, but sitting in the box staring vacantly through the glass doesn't push my buttons.The entire group (players and coaches) need to do something different that's for sure. I have never seen DT sit on the bench, perhaps its not his thing, perhaps he doesn't trust the other coaches and wants to hear everything they say and do. All I know is that in his first 28 games, his team conceded 30 point swing in 18 of them, I think with Sundays game, its is now 19 from 36 games. This is the biggest think costing us wins and I dont care who the opposition is. They must rectify this.
Here is an article from March this year about the topic, what have they done about it?
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-news-2021-carlton-conceding-five-goal-swings-records-david-teague-coaching-stats/news-story/2fcc11cd81dc6f8d8f807607cc7b9e34
Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2021 Rd 8: Carlton vs Western Bulldogs - Gointocarlton - 05-10-2021
(05-10-2021, 09:59 PM)northernblue link Wrote:I hope our boys spend as much time rewatching our first Q against the dogs as they will the last.Funny you say that, I thought the same thing at the Brisbane game. They warmed up right in front of us at the start and after half time and I commented to the Mrs how thick in quad and butt area they looked compared to our blokes. Dunno if it was the white shorts but they looked like bulls. As you say though, 4 qtrs is the key. A win on Sunday could have catapulted our season, instead...
The dogs were swarming all over us in the first, we weathered it then we countered.
When they realise that they need to be 100% switched on for 4/4 Q then we’ll play like a premiership team, until then they need to keep building belief.
Another thing that struck me was how physically developed the doggies are, all extremely powerful, a mature hardened team.