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Re: Ashes 2019 - DJC - 08-19-2019

(08-19-2019, 11:23 AM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:Bit more than intimidation IMO, he is bowling to hit blokes and then waiting at the top of his mark laughing as they lay on the ground.....its got out of hand.
We probably started it with Cummins doing some enforcing but Root has taken it to a new level with Archer and he is delighting in opposing players getting hurt and to me its
not exciting but dangerous.

I think that we started it with Lillee and Thommo (if you ignore the bodyline series) but, you’re right, it is getting out of hand.  The umpires really need to clamp down on intimidatory bowling but that would require the best umpires to be officiating rather than the incompetent neutrals.


Re: Ashes 2019 - Professer E - 08-19-2019

That peanut who abused Smith was in the Long Room is lucky that he wasn't dropped on the spot.  Happy to bag Smith but probably applauded Root,  who is a bare faced liar and a cheat.


Re: Ashes 2019 - flyboy77 - 08-19-2019

(08-19-2019, 11:49 AM)Professer E link Wrote:That peanut who abused Smith was in the Long Room is lucky that he wasn't dropped on the spot.  Happy to bag Smith but probably applauded Root,  who is a bare faced liar and a cheat.


Root will forever be remembered by this cheating moment - and nothing else!


Re: Ashes 2019 - capcom - 08-19-2019

I don't mind any fast bowling at all ... never have ... but Archer's attitude to it after he's downed a batsman?  If you take some vindictive pleasure in hurting people, that's a totally different thing.  Particularly when you know he'll keep it up, perhaps even at tailenders.

 


Re: Ashes 2019 - malo - 08-19-2019

I don't think the Aussies will give a flying hoot if Archer continues this type of attack....doesn't get top level batsmen out & of all countries, we grow up on this stuff.  of the all the great players of short pitched bowling over the years, the vast majority of them are Aussies, for very good reason.  if there are any batsmen in our top order who CANT handle this....their spot should be vacated.

Gee...what would I give to see Punter in his prime take on this joker.....& lets face it, Archer is still over 10kph slower than the likes of Lee & Akhtar.


Re: Ashes 2019 - LP - 08-19-2019

(08-19-2019, 10:16 PM)malo link Wrote:Gee...what would I give to see Punter in his prime take on this joker.....& lets face it, Archer is still over 10kph slower than the likes of Lee & Akhtar.

Not really, like it or not Archer if injury free will be a top fast bowler for the next decade.

Fast bowling is a problem for Australia, the Warne era has seen a generation grow up as spinners, we've too many Warnes and not enough Lillees at the moment!

Secondly, the Phil Hughes thing put the wind up the Aussie cricketers, not only the batsmen but the bowlers. We don't play that aggressive anymore, and our attitude has changed. We've gone from one extreme to the other!

In the Thommo/Lillee era we were the ones smirking when the batsmen got hit so we shouldn't be hypocrites now, but we should be prepared to get even which I doubt we have in us anymore! It's sport, blokes shouldn't be a risk of dying from a legitimate part of the game.


Re: Ashes 2019 - capcom - 08-19-2019

The other question is whether the neck guards be compulsory across all helmet manufacturers.  Then applied to all batsmen.

Makes one wonder about the antiquated batting gloves of the mid 60's green pimpled rubbish and comparing them to today's equivalent.

And then, back to basics of defence.





Re: Ashes 2019 - ElwoodBlues1 - 08-20-2019

(08-19-2019, 10:16 PM)malo link Wrote:I don't think the Aussies will give a flying hoot if Archer continues this type of attack....doesn't get top level batsmen out & of all countries, we grow up on this stuff.  of the all the great players of short pitched bowling over the years, the vast majority of them are Aussies, for very good reason.  if there are any batsmen in our top order who CANT handle this....their spot should be vacated.

Gee...what would I give to see Punter in his prime take on this joker.....& lets face it, Archer is still over 10kph slower than the likes of Lee & Akhtar.
The danger with Archer is his accuracy and ability to get
the ball up off a length. Andy Roberts is the bowler that Archer is being compared to and he bowled in similar fashion and a lot of good batsman said Roberts had the most dangerous bouncer out of all the top quicks in that era.


Re: Ashes 2019 - capcom - 08-20-2019

(08-20-2019, 12:25 AM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:The danger with Archer is his accuracy and ability to get
the ball up off a length. Andy Roberts is the bowler that Archer is being compared to and he bowled in similar fashion and a lot of good batsman said Roberts had the most dangerous bouncer out of all the top quicks in that era.

He broke Hooke's jaw.  Incredible bowler


Re: Ashes 2019 - LP - 08-20-2019

(08-19-2019, 11:08 PM)capcom link Wrote:And then, back to basics of defence.

Don't take your eye off the ball, weave left or right, keep the guards and helmet between your face and the pill.

Never, ever, turn your back or head on the ball!