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Re: Pre-Game Potential: AFL 2019 Rd 8: Carlton vs. Collingwood - JonHenry - 05-10-2019
(05-10-2019, 05:51 AM)LP link Wrote:Yes, proving the absolute obvious, like sMurph isn't physically intimidating like Joel Selwood.
You'd fail horribly as a coach, you'd be so hell bent on putting your charges in circumstances that prove their shortcomings, you'd waste all their available talent!
You would just keep playing guys that won’t take their turn.
And that’s where you would fail.
Clarkson doesn’t cop it, but you would.
They don’t call it a team game for nothing.
Not everyone needs to be Luke Hodge, but if it’s your turn to tackle or take physical pressure you should.
Especially when you’re supposedly a leader.
Re: Pre-Game Potential: AFL 2019 Rd 8: Carlton vs. Collingwood - Professer E - 05-10-2019
I'm with you JH, for a supposed team leader he's been less than underwhelming. Stand up or piss off IMO.
Re: Pre-Game Potential: AFL 2019 Rd 8: Carlton vs. Collingwood - Thryleon - 05-10-2019
If we had much to bring in I'd agree.
It sounds like we are dropping Murphy for the sake of it to bring in someone else who isnt up to it.
Cutting your nose off to spite your face.
That's not the sort of club culture we want.
Re: Pre-Game Potential: AFL 2019 Rd 8: Carlton vs. Collingwood - JonHenry - 05-10-2019
(05-10-2019, 09:06 AM)Thryleon link Wrote:If we had much to bring in I'd agree.
It sounds like we are dropping Murphy for the sake of it to bring in someone else who isnt up to it.
Cutting your nose off to spite your face.
That's not the sort of club culture we want.
That’s exactly what we want.
It’s setting standards that we have refused to do for years, hence the pathetic club we are today.
We just keep accepting the same pathetic half efforts and it will not change unless the match committee and Bolton make a stand.
LOB sees it and thinks I will play the same way.
SPS will follow suit and soon enough another group is lost.
We should have sent Murphy to Brisbane, not Mitch Robinson.
Re: Pre-Game Potential: AFL 2019 Rd 8: Carlton vs. Collingwood - Thryleon - 05-10-2019
(05-10-2019, 09:11 AM)JonHenry link Wrote:That’s exactly what we want.
It’s setting standards that we have refused to do for years, hence the pathetic club we are today.
We just keep accepting the same pathetic half efforts and it will not change unless the match committee and Bolton make a stand.
LOB sees it and thinks I will play the same way.
SPS will follow suit and soon enough another group is lost.
We should have sent Murphy to Brisbane, not Mitch Robinson.
We simply dont have enough class to bring in to allow the removal of a player because he can't be thug.
Or are you saying we should play polson and Kennedy??
Dow needs to be dropped too.
Re: Pre-Game Potential: AFL 2019 Rd 8: Carlton vs. Collingwood - Professer E - 05-10-2019
It's not about being a thug, that's crap, its about 100% commitment. Its about pure, unadultered will to win, and damn the consequences.
I'm having trouble putting this into words, and maybe its just perceptions resulting from two bottles of red and 20 years of abject frustration, but there's been an issue at the club for a long time. Blokes that run around and look like they're engaged, but they're aren't. The kind that get a reasonable number of possessions but don't influence the game. They lay tackles that rarely stick, they chase but the opponent always gets away, they never seem to quite get into position to block or spoil or whatever. They chase kicks and don't worry about their opponent. Its frustrating because as players they are more than capable of meaningful contributions.
Maybe they are just perennially unlucky and their tackles are all broken by stronger players. Maybe they lack or have lost a yard and their opponents break clear from contests and they get left trailing a few steps behind. But I can't believe this, because its a pattern.
There's an exCFC player now at Adelaide who was the epitome of this kind of player.
Cripps was pretty cut and dried about commitment this week. I wouldn't want to be the teammate who came off on Saturday giving less than 100% .
Re: Pre-Game Potential: AFL 2019 Rd 8: Carlton vs. Collingwood - JonDorotich - 05-10-2019
(05-10-2019, 06:15 AM)LP link Wrote:x2
btw., I liked BBs pre-game presser, https://www.carltonfc.com.au/video/2019-05-10/bolton-previews-pies, but I'm not so confident our kids are all that good yet at blocking out the noise as he suggests. But I'll take him at his word.
On a separate issue, SpecialK back is massive, his experience and he's played well against Grundy previously. I like the no runners rule, but I concede our inexperienced team suffers under that rule, so getting an experienced player back in the heat is massive for us.
I realise the MC is probably doing it for a reason, but I feel over the last couple of games they have been a bit slow moving our experienced types back into traditional roles. Especially given you cannot send out a bunch of runners to instruct the kids.
Could the AFL change the runners rule, so that teams that didn't make finals last year can have an extra runner, it would be a great leveller?
I support Bolton but I didn’t enjoy his press conference at all. Specifically, he can’t be serious claiming that we’ve only been disappointed with 4 quarters this year given we’re 1-6. That’s delusional.
Re: Pre-Game Potential: AFL 2019 Rd 8: Carlton vs. Collingwood - capcom - 05-10-2019
Adelaide worked him out Prof. I had him at game number 1. Timid.
Re: Pre-Game Potential: AFL 2019 Rd 8: Carlton vs. Collingwood - PaulP - 05-10-2019
The amount of fantasising that goes on here. Gibbs was dropped for 1 game and was back in the next week. Roughead has also been dropped, for at least 1 game, and possibly indefinitely. Both have played over 250 games. But apparently Gibbs has finally been worked out, which means that the Crows were asleep at the wheel for more than a decade of Gibbs' career, and also failed to do their homework for 2 successive trade periods. Well clearly, if they want the real truth instead of fake news, they should come here. The place where people know footballers better than any coach, analyst, recruiter, scout etc. from a professional club.
And Murphy ? Ah Murph. 15 seasons, 5 coaches, dozens of team mates, assistant coaches, board members, journalists, and no one has been able to rein him in. He told Malthouse to f2ck off, he told Judd to f2ck off, any hard nut that gets in his way, he just mows them down, puts 'em in their place, and shows them who's boss. Because nobody, and I mean nobody, is going to tell Murphy that he has to get off his fat ar$e, pull his finger out and CONTRIBUTE. Nobody has been able to pull him aside and tell him to stop being such a softc0ck, no coach has dropped him, and nobody has been able to see this complete sham of a footballer, except the experts on here.
Thank God for footy forum experts.
Re: Pre-Game Potential: AFL 2019 Rd 8: Carlton vs. Collingwood - JonHenry - 05-10-2019
(05-10-2019, 10:07 AM)Thryleon link Wrote:We simply dont have enough class to bring in to allow the removal of a player because he can't be thug.
Or are you saying we should play polson and Kennedy??
Dow needs to be dropped too.
A thug?
If he tackles he’s a thug?
Serious?