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Re: Rd 12: Post Game Passion: Carlton vs GWS - flyboy77 - 06-13-2017
Call me old fashioned but 12 disposals, 1 tackle and 1 point in the game oh no, there's more too - 22 pressure acts....
Someone is smoking something. Does this stat include chasing a player but not laying a hand on them?! :
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Re: Rd 12: Post Game Passion: Carlton vs GWS - cookie2 - 06-13-2017
Is there a stat for "Acts that turn and win a game"? That would be quite a useful measure. 8)
Re: Rd 12: Post Game Passion: Carlton vs GWS - LP - 06-13-2017
(06-13-2017, 11:51 PM)cookie2 link Wrote:Is there a stat for "Acts that turn and win a game"? That would be quite a useful measure. 8)
Probably, Daisy gets it for his last 30s.
(06-13-2017, 11:18 PM)flyboy77 link Wrote:Call me old fashioned but 12 disposals, 1 tackle and 1 point in the game oh no, there's more too - 22 pressure acts....
Someone is smoking something. Does this stat include chasing a player but not laying a hand on them?! :
Hi Old-Fashioned,
Daisy won us the game with three pressure acts and one disposal, all in the last 30s! ;D
Regards,
Progressive
Re: Rd 12: Post Game Passion: Carlton vs GWS - Professer E - 06-14-2017
Pressure act mean "involved in the game but didn't get a stat"... kind of like what Cyril Rioli does. Impact without getting kicks if you know what I mean.
Re: Rd 12: Post Game Passion: Carlton vs GWS - Thryleon - 06-14-2017
To measure a stat, there would be some criteria surrounding what it constitutes.
My guess at what it means is an act where a player is involved in a play without necessarily getting a stat (tackle, disposal, 1%) which results in a turnover.
That becomes tangible.
I reckon its probably a bit like the tennis statistic of the "forced error".
Besides that who knows, but the fact that he scored highly is irrelevant of its own. Its just a number. What becomes important is how the rest of his teamates went, and what the average is.
Re: Rd 12: Post Game Passion: Carlton vs GWS - LP - 06-14-2017
(06-14-2017, 12:09 AM)Professer E link Wrote:Pressure act mean "involved in the game but didn't get a stat"... kind of like what Cyril Rioli does. Impact without getting kicks if you know what I mean.
So similar to the 1%ers.
Forcing opponents into error, choose the wrong option.
Forcing a stutter, delaying an opponent.
Smoothers, interfering with an opponents handball.
Bumps and shepherds.
Basically things that contribute to opposition clangers.
Re: Rd 12: Post Game Passion: Carlton vs GWS - LP - 06-14-2017
(06-14-2017, 01:20 AM)Thryleon link Wrote:Besides that who knows, but the fact that he scored highly is irrelevant of its own. Its just a number. What becomes important is how the rest of his teamates went, and what the average is.
I suppose it signals effort and influence, a bit like the reasons for Daisy being selected.
Maybe a more important measure is the effect it has on team-mates! :o
Re: Rd 12: Post Game Passion: Carlton vs GWS - Thryleon - 06-14-2017
(06-14-2017, 01:22 AM)LP link Wrote:I suppose it signals effort and influence, a bit like the reasons for Daisy being selected.
Maybe a more important measure is the effect it has on team-mates! :o
Both true enough statements.
Statistically speaking, this stat might be game high for our team, but like all stats, if high for the competition is 30, then 22 is reasonable for a young player. If 15 is high for the competition, then 22 becomes impressive.
The effect it has on team mates, is difficult to measure, but it would be appreciated and that's all that matters there.
The pessimist in me reminds me that our club is looking for as many small wins as it can get, so highlighting stuff like this for a youngster is important as a small win in case we dont get the big win, so the fact we won by a point is important to note in this regard.
Re: Rd 12: Post Game Passion: Carlton vs GWS - LP - 06-14-2017
(06-14-2017, 01:31 AM)Thryleon link Wrote:The pessimist in me reminds me that our club is looking for as many small wins as it can get, so highlighting stuff like this for a youngster is important as a small win in case we dont get the big win, so the fact we won by a point is important to note in this regard.
I don't think BB is like that, I am sure he wouldn't allow a player to have their tyres pumped up if it wasn't deserved.
Re: Rd 12: Post Game Passion: Carlton vs GWS - DJC - 06-14-2017
(06-13-2017, 11:18 PM)flyboy77 link Wrote:Call me old fashioned but 12 disposals, 1 tackle and 1 point in the game oh no, there's more too - 22 pressure acts....
Someone is smoking something. Does this stat include chasing a player but not laying a hand on them?! :
I believe it does, as well as corralling, closing and physical pressure. I guess it is meaningful when the pressure act leads to a turnover or stoppage.