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Re: 2017 Round 5: Post Game Prognostications: Carlton vs Port Adelaide - Gointocarlton - 04-22-2017
(04-22-2017, 03:25 AM)Amers link Wrote:I didn't see the game, perhaps fortunately!Port laid 30 more tackles than us which was disappointing.
But stats do tell some sort of a story. The worm says we were in it for about a half, but we had 3 separate periods where they really got on top of us, 1 for a whole qtr that cost us 6 goals!
It's games like this where I an not worried about the kids, they will always have their ups and downs in their early stages, it's the senior players I am looking at in games like this.
When a team goes missing for a whole qtr, that tells me there is a problem with our on field leadership. At no stage did/could no one rally the troups and put an end to the run on that Port had. That's a problem.
If I recall correctly, Bolts has come out and said that we want to be known for our effort, consistency and pressure. My question is where was any of that in the 3rd qtr? for the whole qtr ??
The HUN has a stat for pressure acts that I have not yet seen, but my next favorite stat, tackles, tells a telling story. 11 of our players (half our side) were only able to lay 7 tackles between them, 7.
And they weren't all kids either, Murphy our captain, Docherty in our leadeship group, Wright and White, both senior players are in that group.
Now Bolts, tell me what kind of effort and pressure did they give throughout the whole game?
Not good enough.
Re: 2017 Round 5: Post Game Prognostications: Carlton vs Port Adelaide - cookie2 - 04-22-2017
@ Amers
Mate, I think BB is becoming all too painfully aware of where the roots of our problems lie. End of year will be "interesting times" if things continue like this.
Re: 2017 Round 5: Post Game Prognostications: Carlton vs Port Adelaide - kruddler - 04-22-2017
(04-22-2017, 02:48 AM)laj link Wrote:Going back to 2005 Port beat Hawthorn by 117pts on a Friday night. The Hawks side contained the likes of Lewis, Mitchell, Roughead, Hodge, Franklin, Sewell, Crawford, Bateman, Osborne, Ladson, Croad, Williams all of who went on to play in the 2008 premiership side a few years later.
Back in 2011 Carlton smashed Gold Coast by 119 points on a saturday night.
The gold coast side contained D. Swallow, Bennell, Day, Caddy, Prestia, Gorringe, Lynch, Tape (all top 13 players) along with Brownlow medalist Gary Ablett, premiership player Campbell Brown, All-Australian Nathan Bock....
A few years later, they are still crap. A few years after that, they are worse.
Re: 2017 Round 5: Post Game Prognostications: Carlton vs Port Adelaide - laj - 04-22-2017
(04-22-2017, 03:46 AM)kruddler link Wrote:Back in 2011 Carlton smashed Gold Coast by 119 points on a saturday night.
The gold coast side contained D. Swallow, Bennell, Day, Caddy, Prestia, Gorringe, Lynch, Tape (all top 13 players) along with Brownlow medalist Gary Ablett, premiership player Campbell Brown, All-Australian Nathan Bock....
A few years later, they are still crap. A few years after that, they are worse.
I think you're smart enough to get my point.
Re: 2017 Round 5: Post Game Prognostications: Carlton vs Port Adelaide - PaulP - 04-22-2017
(04-22-2017, 03:24 AM)Lods link Wrote:Their futures are virtually tied together.
Succeed and they will reap and deserve all the credit as a group.
Fail... and it will be a collective blame.
They've set the course and have to stay true to it.
Bolton will take the fall before any of the others, of this I am certain. And not just because he's senior coach.
Re: 2017 Round 5: Post Game Prognostications: Carlton vs Port Adelaide - Lods - 04-22-2017
(04-22-2017, 04:16 AM)PaulP link Wrote:Bolton will take the fall before any of the others, of this I am certain. And not just because he's senior coach.
Unless some crazy, trigger happy billionaire doesn't like the way things are going and thinks he can do a better job of running the place
;D
Re: 2017 Round 5: Post Game Prognostications: Carlton vs Port Adelaide - PaulP - 04-22-2017
(04-22-2017, 04:19 AM)Lods link Wrote:Unless some crazy, trigger happy billionaire doesn't like the way things are going and thinks he can do a better job of running the place
Ah yes - an all too familiar type around Princes Park. I believe this type has now been banished from the kingdom.
Re: 2017 Round 5: Post Game Prognostications: Carlton vs Port Adelaide - kruddler - 04-22-2017
(04-22-2017, 04:14 AM)laj link Wrote:I think you're smart enough to get my point.
I hope you're smart enough to get mine.
You pointed out the exception, not the rule.
Re: 2017 Round 5: Post Game Prognostications: Carlton vs Port Adelaide - Lods - 04-22-2017
(04-22-2017, 04:24 AM)PaulP link Wrote:Ah yes - an all too familiar type around Princes Park. I believe this type has now been banished from the kingdom.
Just sleeping
Re: 2017 Round 5: Post Game Prognostications: Carlton vs Port Adelaide - laj - 04-22-2017
(04-22-2017, 04:29 AM)kruddler link Wrote:I hope you're smart enough to get mine.
You pointed out the exception, not the rule.
i'm not going to bogged the thread down in crap like you're prone to do at times. Just pointing out how things can change with a very young side within a few years. That Hawthorn side was an exception too in relation to class yet had to go through the same pain rebuilding. They finished 3rd last that year, 2pts ahead of us. Ended up a super side down the track. I'm sure St.Kilda went through crap early 2000s to and made 2 GFs, GWS had similar to what GC had and look at them. Maybe GC were the exception! Actually they weren't but the 2005 Hawks weren't an exception either, just exceptional. Goes both ways.