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Re: New Skipper? - PaulP - 12-16-2015
The issue is not about physicality per se. The issue is the relationship between physicality and leadership. Beating up on Murph has nothing to do with leadership.
And Jono Brown's approach to footy has more to do with his own personal ego than a genuine interest in being there for the long haul. It beggars belief that anyone could believe spending half the season on the sidelines with a brain like mash is really helpful to young blokes.
Re: New Skipper? - PaulP - 12-16-2015
(12-16-2015, 05:46 AM)madbluboy link Wrote:The Gibbs tackle was leadership at it's finest because the next bounce after play resumed Cripps drove a Port player into the turf. That physicality set the tone and set up the win.
I really don't know what to say to this. I don't remember much about the game.
Re: New Skipper? - PaulP - 12-16-2015
(12-16-2015, 06:06 AM)cookie2 link Wrote:Bryce does not come across as a leader when I've seen him interviewed - he is very laid back and affable but does not seem to have a lot to say unless pushed. TBH, you reminded me that he was VC Paul! Whether or not he remains in a VC or Co Capt role next year remains to be seen, but whether that happens or not I think BB will expect him, along with others, to strongly support the capt and not let anyone push him around, as well as to assist actively in the on field and off field development of the younger guys. IMO this will be vital to us becoming more competitive.
All sounds fair enough to me cookie.
Re: New Skipper? - DJC - 12-16-2015
(12-16-2015, 06:06 AM)cookie2 link Wrote:Bryce does not come across as a leader when I've seen him interviewed - he is very laid back and affable but does not seem to have a lot to say unless pushed. TBH, you reminded me that he was VC Paul! Whether or not he remains in a VC or Co Capt role next year remains to be seen, but whether that happens or not I think BB will expect him, along with others, to strongly support the capt and not let anyone push him around, as well as to assist actively in the on field and off field development of the younger guys. IMO this will be vital to us becoming more competitive.
Did you see the interview I linked Cookie?
I thought it was as good as any AFL player has done; on message, positive, both personal and team oriented, supportive of Murph and forward looking. Slightly off topic but he, like others, stressed how different Bolton's approach is. I suppose that helps to explain how far off the pace we had fallen this season.
I saw quite a lot of Judd in how Gibbs spoke and I guess that is to be expected. Of course, Judd wasn't a particularly demonstrative leader and I think many supporters want a more demonstrative, vocal bloke to be the skipper. I'd prefer someone who can scare the pants off opponents with a steely gaze but I don't think they are on our list at the moment.
Re: New Skipper? - kruddler - 12-16-2015
Has anyone wondered if perhaps all this talk about a new skipper and leaders in general was NOT to replace murphy, but to replace the rest of the leadership group? Or at least make them put in and earn the responsibility again, rather than just inherit it from last year.
Re: New Skipper? - Gointocarlton - 12-16-2015
(12-16-2015, 08:15 AM)kruddler link Wrote:Has anyone wondered if perhaps all this talk about a new skipper and leaders in general was NOT to replace murphy, but to replace the rest of the leadership group? Or at least make them put in and earn the responsibility again, rather than just inherit it from last year.Hmmm, interesting. You may be onto something. Thinking back to this year, what an inspired leadership group choice Hendo was :
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Re: New Skipper? - PaulP - 12-16-2015
(12-16-2015, 08:15 AM)kruddler link Wrote:Has anyone wondered if perhaps all this talk about a new skipper and leaders in general was NOT to replace murphy, but to replace the rest of the leadership group? Or at least make them put in and earn the responsibility again, rather than just inherit it from last year.
Certainly possible, but given what I read, quoting Bolton, Murph, Gibbs, 2E and maybe others, the focus seems to be Murph.
Re: New Skipper? - kruddler - 12-16-2015
(12-16-2015, 08:19 AM)Gointocarlton link Wrote:Hmmm, interesting. You may be onto something. Thinking back to this year, what an inspired leadership group choice Hendo was :
I think Hendo showed signs of leadership during his time with us. Not sure when and where that little switch turned off in his head, but it was clear he had checked out quite a while ago and offered zero leadership. Perhaps Geelong got in his ear early on and he just gave up?
Re: New Skipper? - kruddler - 12-16-2015
(12-16-2015, 08:20 AM)PaulP link Wrote:Certainly possible, but given what I read, quoting Bolton, Murph, Gibbs, 2E and maybe others, the focus seems to be Murph.
What you read is what reporters want to write.
What they write is what is going to sell.
What is going to sell is not that the guys under Murphy are not up to it...it is Murphy himself. Thats the headline....but is it the message?
Re: New Skipper? - PaulP - 12-16-2015
(12-16-2015, 08:25 AM)kruddler link Wrote:What you read is what reporters want to write.
What they write is what is going to sell.
What is going to sell is not that the guys under Murphy are not up to it...it is Murphy himself. Thats the headline....but is it the message?
This is always the issue. For us on the outside, it's not possible to know. Bolton did mention a full reset, so clearly your theory is plausible.