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Re: Australian Cricket - Crisis, What Crisis ?? - laj - 11-18-2015
(11-18-2015, 01:43 AM)Professer E link Wrote:We need to be seriously thinking about the future... Faulkner I'd be looking at for down the track. Can't believe either or both Marshes are getting another chance, both have been extremely underwhelming at Test level.
Bit over the criticism Smith is copping for not declaring earlier... why is it always Australia that has to set up games? The Kiwis didn't exactly hurry things along in the field. Every man and his dog knew that is was going to be a draw when Smith got out early on the fifth day.
Mitch Marsh is bowling really well. Although he is the all rounder he is batting at no.6 meaning his batting is more important than his bowling to the team, hence he best be making some runs if he wants to keep his spot. Watson at least got starts and rarely made single figure scores. Just kept getting a brilliant 25 then getting out. That was his problem. Faulkner or Henriques must be pushing Marsh for his spot.
Not sure how Shaun Marsh got a gig again. Like Marcus North he'll get 100, cement his spot, then get nothing for the next 5 innings. Would've gone with Klinger.
Pattinson and Siddle in. Hazelwood is doing very little. Current pitches require an accurate workhorse that can keep pressure on the batsmen. Siddle is that person.
Re: Australian Cricket - Crisis, What Crisis ?? - Professer E - 11-28-2015
Mitch Marsh needs to start bowling well because he can't bat for crap... just like his brother....just not good enough.
Australian cricket is in a crisis when most of the batting comes from WA.... Voges looks like he can get out any ball, the Marsh brother are deadest hopeless... FFS, give somebody else a go like Faulkner or Stoins or anybody not those WA nupties.
Re: Australian Cricket - Crisis, What Crisis ?? - crashlander - 11-28-2015
I think guys like Voges are just there to mark time before w find the next generation of batsmen. I don't think either of the Marshes are quite good enough. No ground is too big for Mitch when he gets going, but if the ball moves, he gets out. Shaun has had his turn. he needs to stop getting out to nothing balls. Voges is not quite good enough.
But where are the next generation of batsmen to take their places?
Re: Australian Cricket - Crisis, What Crisis ?? - JonHenry - 11-28-2015
Shaun marsh is 32 and has had 200 first class innings for 16 hundreds. When picking young guys, stats can be forgiven for talent, but they don't lie when you're 32. He is shite
Re: Australian Cricket - Crisis, What Crisis ?? - crashlander - 11-29-2015
(11-28-2015, 10:07 PM)JonHenry link Wrote:Shaun marsh is 32 and has had 200 first class innings for 16 hundreds. When picking young guys, stats can be forgiven for talent, but they don't lie when you're 32. He is crapeI wish Shaun Marsh were fecal, but he isn't. He just doesn't have the concentration or hardness. At 32 he really needs to find something. Mind you, our batting really needs some new talent.
Our bowling isn't bad if we can ever get our guys fit on the field. But that just doesn't happen.
Re: Australian Cricket - Crisis, What Crisis ?? - laj - 11-29-2015
For two Test I would've played Klinger ahead of S.Marsh. After that Khawaja returns. S.Marsh has had his chances. Faulkner may get his chance again as the all-rounder at this rate. Pattinson obviously for Starc.
Re: Australian Cricket - Crisis, What Crisis ?? - malo - 11-29-2015
What a refreshing change to see a test match where the balance of bat & ball is a bit more even !..........and continues to show up that the current generation of batsmen have no idea of how to bat with the ball moving off dead straight for a good chunk of the time. Learnt nothing from the recent Ashes debarcle.
3 Day test ? Who cares ! 5 days is the absolute limit, not a minimum.
Re: Australian Cricket - Crisis, What Crisis ?? - cimm1979 - 11-29-2015
(11-29-2015, 09:16 PM)malo link Wrote:What a refreshing change to see a test match where the balance of bat & ball is a bit more even !..........and continues to show up that the current generation of batsmen have no idea of how to bat with the ball moving off dead straight for a good chunk of the time. Learnt nothing from the recent Ashes debarcle.
3 Day test ? Who cares ! 5 days is the absolute limit, not a minimum.
Yep.
I thought it was fantastic.
Re: Australian Cricket - Crisis, What Crisis ?? - Professer E - 11-29-2015
The test showed up how technically sloppy Aus batsmen are... commit to the line early, throw the hands at the ball and expect it to whizz away for four... so much for playing conservatively through the arc and watching the ball onto the bat.
We are damn hard to beat on those kinds of decks but if the ball deviates - swing or spin - we're stuffed.
Poms and Kiwis must be chuckling to 'emselves watching our mob yesterday.
Re: Australian Cricket - Crisis, What Crisis ?? - cimm1979 - 11-29-2015
(11-29-2015, 10:45 PM)Professer E link Wrote:The test showed up how technically sloppy Aus batsmen are... commit to the line early, throw the hands at the ball and expect it to whizz away for four... so much for playing conservatively through the arc and watching the ball onto the bat.
We are damn hard to beat on those kinds of decks but if the ball deviates - swing or spin - we're stuffed.
Poms and Kiwis must be chuckling to 'emselves watching our mob yesterday.
We won.
But on your point, most teams have the same deficiencies it's just that many of them aren't that smart and it takes them a while to adjust.