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Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - mateinone - 09-27-2020

Sorry but I hate Sky, but anyway..
But I don't know why Sweden is being compared to NYC and UK in regards to when they leveled out to zero deaths, but certainly if you compare it to say Norway and Finland (I would have thought more appropriate comparisons) they took much longer to level out and their peak deaths were considerably higher.

If Australia had 230,000+ cases and 14,000 deaths, but we didn't have the lockdown, are you actually suggesting this is preferable?
I may be misreading you, but if you are suggesting there should not have been a lockdown that is a corresponding response based on population

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - madbluboy - 09-27-2020

What was the point of getting rid of the curfew if you can't go anywhere?



Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - kruddler - 09-27-2020

(09-27-2020, 03:52 AM)madbluboy link Wrote:What was the point of getting rid of the curfew if you can't go anywhere?

Late night shopping/food runs.

No longer need ubereats etc

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - mateinone - 09-27-2020

(09-27-2020, 03:57 AM)kruddler link Wrote:Late night shopping/food runs.

No longer need ubereats etc

Yeah I agree, it was exactly about that..
Not getting a huge fine because you run out of milk in the middle of the night and want a coffee or smoke etc.
This may not seem like a significant change, but removal of the curfew does still bring significant upside.

Not that I agree with the restrictions on allowing a very small number of guests, I would have thought this was a reasonable option, but ... the answer that even with small numbers there is no masks being worn and it can still easily transmit is reasonable.

Overall, I thought today's announcements lacked in a few areas, but it did also deliver in a few areas. I am extremely happy to see the arbitrary date of 4 weeks removed, the answer on the golf course and tennis courts seems pretty average (though golf cannot easily be played in 2 hours (for 9 holes) if a course is busy, which they would be.

More positives than negatives out of today's press conference

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - Micky0 - 09-27-2020

You’re never going to please everyone.

I find it astonishing that people really needed to be out after 9pm with f all open anyway - we have two kids and so weren’t only organising having dinner sorted or milk in the fridge for ourselves but our kids too.  But anyway it just shows everyone will whine about something, and then when that changes they whine about something else.

Wasn’t the point of the curfew to restrict movement and give the police an easier time of being able to keep track of people doing the right thing - ie 5km radius, not visiting other households etc?

If the worst thing happening in your life atm is not being able to fish or play golf, you’re doing ok. Hang in there, we’re almost at the end  O:-)



Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - Professer E - 09-27-2020

So,  easing restrictions means  essentially tomorrow is going to be just like today I. E.  No change.

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - Thryleon - 09-27-2020

Im not sure what everyone was expecting.  I know my mother in law in textiles manufacturing and certain other industries are returning to work tomorrow and they haven't been working for 8 weeks.



Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - kruddler - 09-27-2020

(09-27-2020, 08:56 AM)Professer E link Wrote:So,  easing restrictions means  essentially tomorrow is going to be just like today I. E.  No change.

127,000 people able to go back to work.
No curfew
Schools back (when its not school holidays)

That's a fair change isn't it.

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - mateinone - 09-27-2020

I agree with you Kruddler and in any case I am not completely for just opening everything up.
There are some things that I think are probably a little tighter than they need to be, but getting some people back to work, giving back a little freedom and at the same time keeping a tight line on the virus seems a pretty decent compromise.

I think the 5 number is a bit of an issue and as someone just pointed out to me, it means two parents and their child cannot meet up with 2 other parents and their child for exercise/playing in the park... that does seem quite ridiculous when kids and their parents can all go to the pool.

Also whilst 21 days still seems a bit longer than is actually needed to be able to read the impacts of previous changes (between about 15-18 days is enough), I can at least understand the decision making being based on the numbers, so it is acceptable, whereas the 28 days was absolutely not.
I would have also preferred to see something along the lines of the 5km limit replaced with within the same postcode or withing 5km of your home, I think against this would be a little more reasonable.

But overall as I said earlier, I think there is more good than bad in today's new personally

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - kruddler - 09-27-2020

(09-27-2020, 10:04 AM)mateinone link Wrote:I agree with you Kruddler and in any case I am not completely for just opening everything up.
There are some things that I think are probably a little tighter than they need to be, but getting some people back to work, giving back a little freedom and at the same time keeping a tight line on the virus seems a pretty decent compromise.

I think the 5 number is a bit of an issue and as someone just pointed out to me, it means two parents and their child cannot meet up with 2 other parents and their child for exercise/playing in the park... that does seem quite ridiculous when kids and their parents can all go to the pool.

Also whilst 21 days still seems a bit longer than is actually needed to be able to read the impacts of previous changes (between about 15-18 days is enough), I can at least understand the decision making being based on the numbers, so it is acceptable, whereas the 28 days was absolutely not.
I would have also preferred to see something along the lines of the 5km limit replaced with within the same postcode or withing 5km of your home, I think against this would be a little more reasonable.

But overall as I said earlier, I think there is more good than bad in today's new personally

re the number of days....there is never going to be major changes midweek, so its either 14 or 21 days.

Going back to the mathematics vs logistics argument Wink