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Re: AFL Rd 24 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs St, Kilda - LP - 08-27-2024

(08-27-2024, 12:49 AM)Gointocarlton date Wrote::o Mate Scotto was one of the the better kicks I've ever seen (on both sides).
A lot of Scotland long bombs were the result of Fev not being overly keen to run too far, but the team tactics and structure is irrelevant to kicking ability.

Scotland was silk on both sides of his body, he was so good you didn't even notice it. On his left he was as good as Newman, and on his right he was as good as McGovern. He always had time and space because he turned either way without hesitation. He could easily peg bullet like passes, but most forwards do not want the footy delivered like that.

Houlihan was great on his preferred side, particularly when given time and space to run off HB and deliver from the wing. It suited Fev because being an accurate long range kick the run off HB gave him space inside F50. I can't say Houlihan was better than SMurph, but for Fev a lot of SMurph's footy came hot out of the Midfield when Fev had far less time and space. Remember this was back in the no zone days and opposition could camp a defender in front of the forwards.


Re: AFL Rd 24 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs St, Kilda - LP - 08-27-2024

[member=26]madbluboy[/member] I thought it was clearly Fantasia's best game for us, for me Motlop was a bit disappointing because despite his goal he is just not working or defending hard enough when we are outside goal range and don't have the footy. However, Motlop finishes reliably and not finishing has cost us dearly in recent weeks.

The question on Fantasia will be if / when Charlie and Harry return and our runner types then have to deal with upgraded opponents. Last game our small F50 worked for Fantasia, which is why for me some of the others were even more disappointing last game.


Re: AFL Rd 24 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs St, Kilda - pew2 - 08-27-2024

our team defence does not exist who is our defence coach needs to be replaced . after kemp miss shot how easy was it for saints to create a easy scoring opportunity but it happens in a lot of games wer oppositio9n score easy goals.


Re: AFL Rd 24 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs St, Kilda - Gointocarlton - 08-27-2024

(08-27-2024, 05:26 AM)pew2 link Wrote:our team defence does not exist who is our defence coach needs to be replaced .
Aaron Hamill


Re: AFL Rd 24 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs St, Kilda - LP - 08-27-2024

(08-27-2024, 05:26 AM)pew2 date Wrote:our team defence does not exist who is our defence coach needs to be replaced . after kemp miss shot how easy was it for saints to create a easy scoring opportunity but it happens in a lot of games wer oppositio9n score easy goals.
[member=792]pew2[/member]

Our D50 defensive crew is not the problem, it's players further up the field not sticking with opponents when needed. So team defence is a problem not the backline, please be specific when discussing this stuff because reading it feels like rocks are being thrown at our D50 crew.

What can our defenders do when players like Motlop or Acres are caught daydreaming or guarding grass?

When guys like Weiters of Newman roll off their own opponents fans will scream bloody murder about them leaving an opponent, but they do that to try and cover some unguarded opponent. The players up the ground aren't running deep enough to compress the available space.


Re: AFL Rd 24 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs St, Kilda - tonyo - 08-27-2024

(08-27-2024, 12:44 AM)Lods date Wrote:Mansfield...
When he was at Geelong I remember him being a player I'd love to have.
We got the dregs of his career.
He came to us we were an ageing side and his last season was that horror show in 2002.
We got quite a range of dregs apart from Mansfield.....

Glenn Hawker
Mick Martyn
Mick McGuane
Steven O'Reilly

groan.......




Re: AFL Rd 24 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs St, Kilda - Thryleon - 08-27-2024

(08-27-2024, 05:26 AM)pew2 link Wrote:our team defence does not exist who is our defence coach needs to be replaced . after kemp miss shot how easy was it for saints to create a easy scoring opportunity but it happens in a lot of games wer oppositio9n score easy goals.
did they get easy chances?  It was a typical stoppage arm wrestle and they got a bit fortunate in a contest IMHO. 


Re: AFL Rd 24 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs St, Kilda - Lods - 08-27-2024

(08-27-2024, 05:55 AM)tonyo link Wrote:We got quite a range of dregs apart from Mansfield.....

Glenn Hawker
Mick Martyn
Mick McGuane
Steven O'Reilly

groan.......

That's the thing...
Every one of those players were decent footballers at their original clubs.
At Carlton they were shadows of their former selves. (Age, injury etc)


Re: AFL Rd 24 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs St, Kilda - Gointocarlton - 08-27-2024

(08-27-2024, 05:55 AM)tonyo link Wrote:We got quite a range of dregs apart from Mansfield.....

Glenn Hawker
Mick Martyn
Mick McGuane
Steven O'Reilly

groan.......
I could add a truckload of dregs to that list if you want. This should send a shudder down the spine:
Craig Davenport
Billy Smedts
Rhys Palmer
Sean Charles
Sam Cranage
David Gallagher
Andrew Eccles
Ricky Mott
Digby Morell
Daniel Harford
Troy Longmuir
Callum Chambers
Jason Saddington
Richard Hadley
Daniel Gorringe
Kristian Jaksch
Mark Whiley
Matthew Dick
Jarrod Pickett
Darcy Lang
Alex Fasolo
Sure all played more AFL games than me but not one worth the steam off my crap.


Re: AFL Rd 24 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs St, Kilda - northernblue - 08-27-2024

(08-27-2024, 09:59 AM)Gointocarlton link Wrote:I could add a truckload of dregs to that list if you want. This should send a shudder down the spine:
Craig Davenport
Billy Smedts
Rhys Palmer
Sean Charles
Sam Cranage
David Gallagher
Andrew Eccles
Ricky Mott
Digby Morell
Daniel Harford
Troy Longmuir
Callum Chambers
Jason Saddington
Richard Hadley
Daniel Gorringe
Kristian Jaksch
Mark Whiley
Matthew Dick
Jarrod Pickett
Darcy Lang
Alex Fasolo
Sure all played more AFL games than me but not one worth the steam off my crap.

You forgot the Brizvegas guy that came the year Judd did, Richard Hadley ?