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Re: AFL Rd 1 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Richmond - pinot - 03-19-2024
Seems we are still in the hunt for a quality small forward after years of searching. What a tough position to fill!
Personally don't think Durdin will make it. Which opens a small forward spot on the list - hopefully a gem pops up during the mid season draft.
Re: AFL Rd 1 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Richmond - WASurfer - 03-20-2024
Agree on Fantasia....probably came in earlier than expected with the injury to Motlop and Owies was also injured for a period in the pre-season. It's widely acknowledged that the small forward is a difficult position to play. He's there for backup/experience and while his output has been small, his ball use for the most part has been really good. He might make way for Motlop but I wouldn't be writing him off yet.
I still like the Owies/Motlop set up. Owies is already on his 1.5 goals/game average from last year and that's hard to complain about. Martin plays a slightly different role with his marking ability....so for mine, they're the 3 first choice options.
If both Martin and Motlop come back in for the game against North, it might be Fantasia and Cunningham that go out.
Re: AFL Rd 1 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Richmond - LP - 03-20-2024
(03-20-2024, 01:44 AM)WASurfer date Wrote:If both Martin and Motlop come back in for the game against North, it might be Fantasia and Cunningham that go out.You are probably correct, but our apparent game plan changes make it seem less cut and dry than it was before, the roles appear to be more specialised than previous seasons.
For example, last year Owies was basically a deep runner and you could find him all over the deck from FF to FB, this year he seems to be staying closer to the F50. Whether that is a symptom of personal changes like our D50 or a deliberate tactic I can't tell. Maybe with Williams, Saad and Boyd all in D50 we just do not need the SFs running so deeply, if so that'll be good for Motlop who is probably the least aerobic.
We will probably need a few more rounds and some ins and outs to make sense of it, it will start to show in the heat maps.
Re: AFL Rd 1 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Richmond - kruddler - 03-20-2024
(03-20-2024, 01:44 AM)WASurfer link Wrote:Agree on Fantasia....probably came in earlier than expected with the injury to Motlop and Owies was also injured for a period in the pre-season. It's widely acknowledged that the small forward is a difficult position to play. He's there for backup/experience and while his output has been small, his ball use for the most part has been really good. He might make way for Motlop but I wouldn't be writing him off yet.
I still like the Owies/Motlop set up. Owies is already on his 1.5 goals/game average from last year and that's hard to complain about. Martin plays a slightly different role with his marking ability....so for mine, they're the 3 first choice options.
If both Martin and Motlop come back in for the game against North, it might be Fantasia and Cunningham that go out.
Why does everyone forget about fogerty?
I'd drop him before leaving out Martin and Cuningham.
Re: AFL Rd 1 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Richmond - Thryleon - 03-20-2024
(03-20-2024, 03:13 AM)kruddler link Wrote:Why does everyone forget about fogerty?fog for all his faults has had a bigger say in our fortunes this season (and part of last) than most of the rest. His forward pressure game against Brisbane was a big factor in the comeback.
I'd drop him before leaving out Martin and Cuningham.
Re: AFL Rd 1 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Richmond - WASurfer - 03-20-2024
Fogarty got coaches votes in the opening round game against Brisbane, so he'd be unlucky to go out after one quiet game against Richmond.
Re: AFL Rd 1 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Richmond - LP - 03-20-2024
I thought Fogarty has been OK from limited possessions, if you aren't getting a lot of footy at least you better not waste it, and he hasn't!
Re: AFL Rd 1 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Richmond - ElwoodBlues1 - 03-20-2024
Fogarty has a defensive pressure side to his game which might appeal to Voss and his introduction into the team last season after being ignored for a long while helped propel the team forwards and into finals. You need your Indians like Fogarty and Cottrell to support the silky stars....
Re: AFL Rd 1 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Richmond - Milhanna13 - 03-20-2024
(03-20-2024, 01:44 AM)WASurfer link Wrote:I still like the Owies/Motlop set up. Owies is already on his 1.5 goals/game average from last year and that's hard to complain about.
amazing what kicking straight does for you!
Re: AFL Rd 1 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Richmond - kruddler - 03-20-2024
FWIW, i'm not suggesting i would drop Fogarty, but nobody has even mentioned his name in terms of small forwards.
Everyone talking about the pressure he provides, and that shouldn't go unnoticed.
However, in the same breathe people are suggesting Cuningham should/could make way.....despite the fact he has had more pressure acts than Fogarty and every other small forward we have.
So if its good enough for fogarty, why not cunners?