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Re: AFL Rd 1 2023 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Richmond - ElwoodBlues1 - 03-18-2023
(03-18-2023, 07:01 AM)pinot link Wrote:I still have my fingers and toes crossed for Cunners although he looks all but gone there is a slim chance for him to still make it.Fogarty tackles well and while his kicking can be ropey at times I think he has been over looked a lot and deserves a shot.
Lachie Fogarty is more of your Jack Graham type and would prefer him than Owies.
Fisher - time to play your role mate.
He can get the hard ball and can bob up for a goal while playing several positions and I think much like Kennedy who looked gone at one stage if we gave him a decent run we might have ourselves a handy player.
You look at Owies, Fisher, Martin and they havent progressed as players or helped the team progress, jury out on Durdin and Motlop who havent played enough games to judge but I think we need to play the likes of Fogarty, Honey, Carroll, Dow to see what they have got and it might have the secondary effect of making the likes of Owies, Fisher and Martin see that they are not automatic selections and they need to lift their performance.
I dont see Cuningham being a regular player even if he makes it back as he is just too fragile especially with the pace the modern game is being played at and how quickly teams can rack up injuries like we saw last night.
Re: AFL Rd 1 2023 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Richmond - Blue Moon - 03-18-2023
Did the smart thing and left Melbourne straight after the game.
Once again we weren't able to close out the game but at least we got 2 points out of the game which is two more than we got last year in those last two games.
We need to hang on to the ball but to do this you need to be able to hit your targets, handle the ball cleanly and make good decisions. None of these things are Carlton's strengths. Our players dropped makable marks in the first and last minute of the game and a number of times throughout the game. We continually miss targets and our decision making under pressure is appalling. Our players seem to have a low football IQ. While a lot of people are blaming O'Brien, the only option being presented to him was McKay surrounded by Richmond players. Where was the team mate behind him calling for the ball. If someone was there and he turned around and kicked the ball that player, the game was over. In the end his options were kick it to McKay, hold the ball and get caught or kick the ball out deliberately. All these options would give Richmond a chance. The best option would probably be kick the ball out thirty rows back.
I thought we deserved to win but when Richmond was good they were better than us when we were being good. Richmond forwards looked more likely to kick goals than our forwards except for Charlie but he looked unlikely to get the ball. Their defence did better than I expected but if Harry had kicked straight this might have been different. I thought it was good that we were able to kick a couple of goals when they were all over us in the third quarter and once again if Harry had kicked straight the game outcome would probably have been different. Our defence was pretty good despite the bone head errors. What was of concern was our inability to transition from defence to attack. The midfields were a battle of attrition.
Happy with Hollands and Cowan, disappointed in Acres, McGovern and Martin. Senior players need to do better. Newman gave Dusty a bath.
Re: AFL Rd 1 2023 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Richmond - Gointocarlton - 03-18-2023
(03-18-2023, 07:25 AM)Blue Moon link Wrote:Did the smart thing and left Melbourne straight after the game.I can see what Motlop was trying to do but at that point, the better option would have been to stop and waste time. We could have did the old kick to kick and ice the clock while setting up numbers behind the ball. Once LOB received the handball, he had no choice but to run. As for the kick, plenty have potted him for it but it was bang on. H slipped other wise he would have chest marked it.
Once again we weren't able to close out the game but at least we got 2 points out of the game which is two more than we got last year in those last two games.
We need to hang on to the ball but to do this you need to be able to hit your targets, handle the ball cleanly and make good decisions. None of these things are Carlton's strengths. Our players dropped makable marks in the first and last minute of the game and a number of times throughout the game. We continually miss targets and our decision making under pressure is appalling. Our players seem to have a low football IQ. While a lot of people are blaming O'Brien, the only option being presented to him was McKay surrounded by Richmond players. Where was the team mate behind him calling for the ball. If someone was there and he turned around and kicked the ball that player, the game was over. In the end his options were kick it to McKay, hold the ball and get caught or kick the ball out deliberately. All these options would give Richmond a chance. The best option would probably be kick the ball out thirty rows back.
I thought we deserved to win but when Richmond was good they were better than us when we were being good. Richmond forwards looked more likely to kick goals than our forwards except for Charlie but he looked unlikely to get the ball. Their defence did better than I expected but if Harry had kicked straight this might have been different. I thought it was good that we were able to kick a couple of goals when they were all over us in the third quarter and once again if Harry had kicked straight the game outcome would probably have been different. Our defence was pretty good despite the bone head errors. What was of concern was our inability to transition from defence to attack. The midfields were a battle of attrition.
Happy with Hollands and Cowan, disappointed in Acres, McGovern and Martin. Senior players need to do better. Newman gave Dusty a bath.
Re: AFL Rd 1 2023 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Richmond - LP - 03-19-2023
(03-17-2023, 12:02 AM)PaulP date Wrote:I'm not sure what to take away from the game. Whilst it's too early to hit the panic button, I was a little concerned that we lost the territory battle, and more concerned about being beaten around the ball.[member=64]PaulP[/member]
Yes, Walsh excluded we were full strength, injury free with a midfield pocketing a full pre-season.
Or perhaps our injury reports aren't au fait!
Re: AFL Rd 1 2023 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Richmond - PaulP - 03-20-2023
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2023/03/19/carlton-star-goes-on-the-record-with-disappointment-at-mcg-surface/
Re: AFL Rd 1 2023 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Richmond - LP - 03-20-2023
(03-20-2023, 01:21 AM)PaulP date Wrote:https://www.sen.com.au/news/2023/03/19/carlton-star-goes-on-the-record-with-disappointment-at-mcg-surface/Yep, and it's impacting the skills, so for me the AFL and MCG Trust have nowhere to hide!
Re: AFL Rd 1 2023 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Richmond - PaulP - 03-20-2023
(03-20-2023, 01:50 AM)LP link Wrote:Yep, and it's impacting the skills, so for me the AFL and MCG Trust have nowhere to hide!
Docherty seems like a fairly thoughtful, taciturn chap, not an attention seeking big mouth. Hopefully the AFL will pay attention when someone like him gives an opinion.
Re: AFL Rd 1 2023 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Richmond - LP - 03-20-2023
(03-20-2023, 01:56 AM)PaulP date Wrote:Hopefully the AFL will pay attention when someone like him gives an opinion.I think the answer hides in how much someone like Ed Sheeran will make the venue and is worth in marketing, versus what is an AFL player worth?
Re: AFL Rd 1 2023 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Richmond - madbluboy - 03-20-2023
Robbo thoughts
Stephen Silvagni’s principles
Everyone always wants a nice red bow tied around everything, but not this time Blues. The Carlton great was chastised for not being in a photograph with his son Jack and the family in the rooms, and instead chose to sit in his car. Well played, SOS. The irony of the Blues inviting SOS to celebrate with Jack and his brothers, when SOS was, in part, ingloriously punted by the club because his sons were on the list, can’t be ignored. Please, it was to be in a photo and we’re sure SOS would have thousands of photos of the family, and probably took a couple on the night anyhow. Clubs can’t throw people out with the trash and then expect them to come waltzing back in when they are invited to sit at the dining table. As someone famous said, if you don’t have principles, what have you got?
Re: AFL Rd 1 2023 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Richmond - Lods - 03-20-2023
(03-20-2023, 04:15 AM)madbluboy link Wrote:As someone famous said, if you don’t have principles, what have you got?
Petulance...maybe?
SOS's chief antagonist is long gone.