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Re: 2018 Rd 20: Post Game Calm & Civilized Discussion: Carlton vs GWS - PaulP - 08-06-2018

(08-06-2018, 09:56 AM)Gointocarlton link Wrote:Spot on TC. I summarised it like this, they kicked them from everywhere, we missed from almost directly in front.

Coach's fault. He should issue a mea culpa asap.


Re: 2018 Rd 20: Post Game Calm & Civilized Discussion: Carlton vs GWS - DJC - 08-06-2018

(08-06-2018, 08:30 AM)Professer E link Wrote:Bonar, in his first game,  had no trouble impacting and running out the game, but our kids like O'Brien didn't.  Either our kids are crap (a theory)  or the season has caught up with them and they're stuffed.

Bonar looks like he's ready to go.  However, he really was the only GWS debutante and was surrounded by a lot more talent and experience than our newbies.

For them record, Bonar spent 79% of the game on the ground and that was probably more than was planned for.  Of our newbies, Charlie played 89%, Harry 85% (admirable given that he played key forward and back up ruck), Polson 82%, Samo 78%, Dow 77%, Pickett 72% and O'Brien 68%.  Byrne, with limited match fitness, played 79%.  I suspect that they are all spending a lot more time on the ground than they should be.


Re: 2018 Rd 20: Post Game Calm & Civilized Discussion: Carlton vs GWS - Professer E - 08-06-2018

Concerned about LOB given his elite running background.  Only 68 percent game time and looking to have heavy legs from the start.  Recovery from the Suns game?


Re: 2018 Rd 20: Post Game Calm & Civilized Discussion: Carlton vs GWS - DJC - 08-06-2018

(08-06-2018, 10:20 AM)Professer E link Wrote:Concerned about LOB given his elite running background.  Only 68 percent game time and looking to have heavy legs from the start.  Recovery from the Suns game?

I suspect that he would have been out "managed" if we had anyone else.  I guess it's character building if you follow the "what doesn't kill you, makes you stronger" line.


Re: 2018 Rd 20: Post Game Calm & Civilized Discussion: Carlton vs GWS - Lods - 08-06-2018

(08-06-2018, 10:20 AM)Professer E link Wrote:Concerned about LOB given his elite running background.  Only 68 percent game time and looking to have heavy legs from the start.  Recovery from the Suns game?

It's been a long year for him and Dow on the back of a very limited pre-season.
Probably starting to feel the effects.


Re: 2018 Rd 20: Post Game Calm & Civilized Discussion: Carlton vs GWS - cookie2 - 08-06-2018

(08-06-2018, 10:25 AM)DJC link Wrote:I suspect that he would have been out "managed" if we had anyone else.  I guess it's character building if you follow the "what doesn't kill you, makes you stronger" line.

Didn't Custer say that to his men at Little Big Horn? Or maybe it was "they'll never hit us at this ran..........".  Wink


Re: 2018 Rd 20: Post Game Calm & Civilized Discussion: Carlton vs GWS - ElwoodBlues1 - 08-06-2018

(08-06-2018, 09:33 AM)Professer E link Wrote:Collier-Dawkins, Hately, Valente or Smith  EB?

Hately might be ready made and matching it in the SANFL  but I wonder how much upside.  You thought his kicking was iffy as well.

Prof..I like Collier-Dawkins and Smith......Hately gets a lot of ball but his kicking isnt great IMO.........Valente is very neat but doesnt have any real weapons.
Collier-Dawkins is the one I would pick but Smith probably is a more standout player because of his pace and goal kicking ability.....
CD is 193cm and charges through packs, kicking is good and he can stand up in tackles and still deliver the footy, can also play forward....not slow for a player his size either...
SOS would probably take Smith IMO...



Re: 2018 Rd 20: Post Game Calm & Civilized Discussion: Carlton vs GWS - DJC - 08-06-2018

(08-06-2018, 10:58 AM)cookie2 link Wrote:Didn't Custer say that to his men at Little Big Horn? Or maybe it was "they'll never hit us at this ran..........".  Wink

I should know that Cookie, having spent some time with Lakota people at Wounded Knee and the Black Hills (although they weren't too fussed about what Custer may or may not have said!).  I suspect that it was more along the lines of "Where the f**k did these c***ts come from?" or perhaps, "I should have paid more attention to basic cavalry tactics."

Kelly Clarkson (related to the Angry Ant?) sang about it but, apparently, Friedrich Nietzsche is to blame and his words are translated as “That which does not kill us, makes us stronger."


Re: 2018 Rd 20: Post Game Calm & Civilized Discussion: Carlton vs GWS - Lods - 08-06-2018

Nietzsche..the fascists favourite. Wink

Actually some of his quotes are pretty relevant to our situation

To live is to suffer, to survive is to find some meaning in the suffering.


Re: 2018 Rd 20: Post Game Calm & Civilized Discussion: Carlton vs GWS - DJC - 08-06-2018

(08-06-2018, 11:18 AM)Lods link Wrote:Nietzsche..the fascists favourite. Wink

Actually some of his quotes are pretty relevant to our situation

To live is to suffer, to survive is to find some meaning in the suffering.

This is where we need a "like" tab  Smile