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Re: 2016 - Rnd 1 Carlton vs Richmond - Vivian - 03-17-2016
(03-17-2016, 06:49 AM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:Dangerous players to put the inexperienced Smith on....Deledio will probably play forward and is a capable goal kicker these days........both would be too big for Smith to handle.
I'd rather Ed Curnow take Cotchin...
Deledio, Cotchin and Martin are very dangerous when played forward and we need to get our match ups right and not have undersized players on them...
Smith is probably better suited being out of the forward pocket where he can create some turnovers and forward pressure...
I agree. Smith would get lost very quickly, and it is asking too much of him to do much with the ball if he did get hands on it. The best result would be for Clem Smith to spend most of the season playing in the reserves, with a block of 3 or 4 games in the seniors due to injury. He isn't ready for league level football yet, and apart from the odd exception, we shouldn't expect first and second year players to be playing regular league football. That's the depth the club is striving to build.
Re: 2016 - Rnd 1 Carlton vs Richmond - flyboy77 - 03-17-2016
(03-17-2016, 09:39 AM)Vivian link Wrote:I agree. Smith would get lost very quickly, and it is asking too much of him to do much with the ball if he did get hands on it. The best result would be for Clem Smith to spend most of the season playing in the reserves, with a block of 3 or 4 games in the seniors due to injury. He isn't ready for league level football yet, and apart from the odd exception, we shouldn't expect first and second year players to be playing regular league football. That's the depth the club is striving to build.
Who says he's not ready?
Re: 2016 - Rnd 1 Carlton vs Richmond - spf - 03-17-2016
For all those that replied; yes I agree Clem Smith is inexperienced but tagging is also a way of bringing him to the ball (following the better players).
Points taken about Cotchin and Martin wouldn't be a good match up with his ability to play forward, I just thought with a maturing body, better tank and his ability to apply physical pressure this could take some heat out of the Tigers running game. Remember they've lost Conca now from Thursday's mix.
Brynne for instance would be a risk being elevated (they all would be if they haven't played) and they have to get the experience sometime. We need to find out quickly who can play and who can't. If Smith can be applying pressure and crunching blokes, he will cause turnovers and I would have thought a tagging role might work for him.
Anyone know if he has he tagged much at the reserves level?
Re: 2016 - Rnd 1 Carlton vs Richmond - flyboy77 - 03-17-2016
oh i think a big mistake to play Clem anywhere other than forward personally (at this stage of his development).
To digress:
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2016-03-16/injury-update-edwards-conca-grigg-townsend
So no Grigg, Conca, Yarran and possibly Edwards!
Anyone else we know of?
Re: 2016 - Rnd 1 Carlton vs Richmond - BluePhantom - 03-17-2016
I would rather keep him as a creative type player and not train him to be a negative type. Just sayin... ???
Re: 2016 - Rnd 1 Carlton vs Richmond - LP - 03-17-2016
(03-17-2016, 08:38 PM)BluePhantom link Wrote:I would rather keep him as a creative type player and not train him to be a negative type. Just sayin... ???
I think there are already clear signs that Bolton is expanding the skills base faster and further than the previous coaches, for that reason I think you will find the younger blokes get intermittent games and be asked to work on stuff back at VFL level. I thought it was pretty obvious how poorly trained some of our guys were when sent to unfamiliar positions, they had no idea what they were supposed to be doing. I'll bet Bolton is changing that to everyone should know what everybody else does, even if they are no good at it they should still know what to do!
Re: 2016 - Rnd 1 Carlton vs Richmond - BluePhantom - 03-17-2016
(03-17-2016, 08:51 PM)LP link Wrote:I think there are already clear signs that Bolton is expanding the skills base faster and further than the previous coaches, for that reason I think you will find the younger blokes get intermittent games and be asked to work on stuff back at VFL level. I thought it was pretty obvious how poorly trained some of our guys were when sent to unfamiliar positions, they had no idea what they were supposed to be doing. I'll bet Bolton is changing that to everyone should know what everybody else does, even if they are no good at it they should still know what to do!
Seems so logical, why hasn't any of our other coaches thought of doing that? :o
Although Fev was put a Full Back for a game wasn't he?
Re: 2016 - Rnd 1 Carlton vs Richmond - Professer E - 03-17-2016
Evidence for development right there.... young or new players coming in and looking like they can play their assigned roles at senior levels, not just being brought in "see if they can play". A bit tough when the NB's were a rabble on so many levels.
Re: 2016 - Rnd 1 Carlton vs Richmond - Pratty - 03-18-2016
Well I don't want Gibbs 'floating' around like a pansy so he can go have the spotlight shining o him and match up against a Cotchin or the like. He needs to be challenged in a MAJOR way!
Re: 2016 - Rnd 1 Carlton vs Richmond - ItsOurTime - 03-18-2016
(03-18-2016, 01:23 AM)Pratty link Wrote:Well I don't want Gibbs 'floating' around like a pansy so he can go have the spotlight shining o him and match up against a Cotchin or the like. He needs to be challenged in a MAJOR way!
x2
BTW, We're currently at $4.50 (think the line is under 4 goals).
I dint think we're a good show but Richmond with some injuries in round 1, us with a new coach, is probably our best shot at an upset all year.
Would be a nice change to start the season with a win.