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Re: Round 9: Carlton vs. Sydney Post Game Pain - Professer E - 06-01-2015
Why is that when Goodes says something it is "taking a stand" but if something is said that isn't 100% Goodes' agenda it's "racism"?
Personally I think what he did was ill considered and came across as little more than an attempt to taunt fans.
Re: Round 9: Carlton vs. Sydney Post Game Pain - blue4life - 06-01-2015
(06-01-2015, 02:10 AM)PassIt2Carrots link Wrote:And Goodes has just been trying to highlight that, and for those reasons he gets a hard time. It's like people are saying 'we can accept you for being Indigenous but don't you dare point out that we are racist for you no longer will be accepted nor tolerated'.
No one is ever completely comfortable having a mirror placed in front of their face PI2C, none of us are perfect.
For what it's worth I largely agree with your sentiments and admire Goodes as a person, but in this case I concede that not all of the criticism of his actions are racially motivated.
Re: Round 9: Carlton vs. Sydney Post Game Pain - Amers - 06-01-2015
The fact Goodes directed his dance toward the Carlton fans says to me a fair bit about his intentions.
If he was simply trying to celebrate the Indigenous round, why not celebrate with your own teams fans?
Of all the times on the night that he could have chosen to do something like that, (ie before the game started, or to celebrate the win after the game, surely he wasn't afraid of losing), why choose to do it in the heat of battle and directed at opposition supporters?
Re: Round 9: Carlton vs. Sydney Post Game Pain - age - 06-01-2015
(06-01-2015, 02:04 AM)PassIt2Carrots link Wrote:If Yarran had done the dance towards the Sydney crowd no doubt you'd all be just as scathing?
Yarran does not have an aggressive bone in his body.
Re: Round 9: Carlton vs. Sydney Post Game Pain - LP - 06-01-2015
(06-01-2015, 02:04 AM)PassIt2Carrots link Wrote:If Yarran had done the dance towards the Sydney crowd no doubt you'd all be just as scathing?
He would not be cut the same slack that Goodes is getting, Ch.7 would smash Yarran and the AFL would get on board as well!
Re: Round 9: Carlton vs. Sydney Post Game Pain - bratblue - 06-01-2015
What Nicky Winmar and Michael Long have done for their cause has gone down in history and will always be respected by most. Goode's dance does not compare favorably as witnessed by many of the views on this thread.
Re: Round 9: Carlton vs. Sydney Post Game Pain - Baggers - 06-01-2015
(06-01-2015, 02:38 AM)Amers link Wrote:The fact Goodes directed his dance toward the Carlton fans says to me a fair bit about his intentions.
If he was simply trying to celebrate the Indigenous round, why not celebrate with your own teams fans?
Of all the times on the night that he could have chosen to do something like that, (ie before the game started, or to celebrate the win after the game, surely he wasn't afraid of losing), why choose to do it in the heat of battle and directed at opposition supporters?
Exactly my perception as well. If it -- his dance -- was so full of pride and respect why not direct it at his own fans... or at least them as well as us. As unpopular a comment as this might be, I cannot help but wonder if Goodes uses his aboriginality at times for, or to disguise, less than noble intentions.
Re: Round 9: Carlton vs. Sydney Post Game Pain - laj - 06-01-2015
(06-01-2015, 05:04 AM)Baggers link Wrote:Exactly my perception as well. If it -- his dance -- was so full of pride and respect why not direct it at his own fans... or at least them as well as us. As unpopular a comment as this might be, I cannot help but wonder if Goodes uses his aboriginality at times for, or to disguise, less than noble intentions.
It's a war dance so doing it at his own fans is a waste. That's what a war dance is doing it towards the opposition. Probably should've said he was going to do it if he kicked a goal. That would've been better, would've been expected and better appreciated.
In reality though it's a real "who cares". Not sure why we are wasting so much air and newspaper space on something so minor and trivial.
Re: Round 9: Carlton vs. Sydney Post Game Pain - PassIt2Carrots - 06-01-2015
(06-01-2015, 04:05 AM)age link Wrote:Yarran does not have an aggressive bone in his body.
Does Goodes?
Re: Round 9: Carlton vs. Sydney Post Game Pain - sandsmere - 06-01-2015
(06-01-2015, 04:05 AM)age link Wrote:Yarran does not have an aggressive bone in his body.
I think there is a scum player that will disagree with that.