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Re: 2015-Rnd 3 Carlton vs Essendon - DJC - 04-15-2015
(04-15-2015, 02:06 AM)ItsOurTime link Wrote: Isn't he having surgery at the end of the year? So it's less about if but when.
That's my understanding IOT.
A conservative approach now so that he can get back on the field ASAP and hope he doesn't have more issues. He will have the operation at the end of the year and have another limited pre-season.
Re: 2015-Rnd 3 Carlton vs Essendon - PassIt2Carrots - 04-15-2015
(04-15-2015, 01:15 AM)Thryleon link Wrote: As someone who has suffered a sublux injury, I have never had an operation, and my shoulders have never been the same, however I have also sought the advice from an Orthopaedic surgeion and he adivsed that they would unlikely be rectified by surgery and that often intensive Physio therapy is a better outcome unless it becomes a serial problem.
Think back to Andrew Walker. He had recurring issues with his until he had an operation but he also has issues over head these days.
Realistically, surgery isnt a great outcome for any injury, its better used as a worst case scenario.
I have had both shoulders dislocate. First one was playing g grade amateurs. i then re-dislocated it in a fight. The second one was when our neighbour went O/S and his car alarm kept going off for days. Police said they could do nothing and if I touched it they'd charge me. Finally got the RACV to come and dismantle the alarm after contacting the guy's work (it was a work vehicle). Then his dumbass missus comes home and gets the RACV to get the car going again. Later that night the alarm started again. I dislocated my shoulder punching the couch repeatedly in frustration. Cut a long story short my shoulders are now really strong through years and years of weights, so sometimes physio is the best thing.
Re: 2015-Rnd 3 Carlton vs Essendon - DontgoJuddy - 04-15-2015
Docherty Jamison Tuohy
Rowe Henderson Yaran
Walker Gibbs Simpson
Jones Casboult Everitt
Buckley Watson Armfield
Wood Judd Murphy
Int
Cripps Whiley Carrozzo Bell
In Walker Buckley Watson Armfield Cripps Whiley
Out Menzel (inj) White (inj) Ellard, Tutt, Smith, Curnow (all omitted)
On Notice: Henderson, Murphy, Carrazzo, Jones
Re: 2015-Rnd 3 Carlton vs Essendon - ElwoodBlues1 - 04-15-2015
(04-15-2015, 11:40 AM)DontgoJuddy link Wrote: Docherty Jamison Tuohy
Rowe Henderson Yaran
Walker Gibbs Simpson
Jones Casboult Everitt
Buckley Watson Armfield
Wood Judd Murphy
Int
Cripps Whiley Carrozzo Bell
In Walker Buckley Watson Armfield Cripps Whiley
Out Menzel (inj) White (inj) Ellard, Tutt, Smith, Curnow (all omitted)
On Notice: Henderson, Murphy, Carrazzo, Jones
Not bad DGJ...reckon Cripps wont play with his bad back and Tutt will get another game, Walker, Armfield and Whiley are certs to play IMO.....Watto and Buckley 50/50
Re: 2015-Rnd 3 Carlton vs Essendon - DJC - 04-15-2015
(04-15-2015, 11:40 AM)DontgoJuddy link Wrote: Docherty Jamison Tuohy
Rowe Henderson Yaran
Walker Gibbs Simpson
Jones Casboult Everitt
Buckley Watson Armfield
Wood Judd Murphy
Int
Cripps Whiley Carrozzo Bell
In Walker Buckley Watson Armfield Cripps Whiley
Out Menzel (inj) White (inj) Ellard, Tutt, Smith, Curnow (all omitted)
On Notice: Henderson, Murphy, Carrazzo, Jones
The problem is that with an injury or two, our lack of depth is exposed. I'd like to see changes along the lines you have outlined but the replacements have done bugger all. I would keep Curnow and drop Jones.
If Buckley does come in, I reckon he'll be the sub.
Re: 2015-Rnd 3 Carlton vs Essendon - cimm1979 - 04-16-2015
(04-15-2015, 11:44 AM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote: Not bad DGJ...reckon Cripps wont play with his bad back and Tutt will get another game, Walker, Armfield and Whiley are certs to play IMO.....Watto and Buckley 50/50
Does he have a bad back?
Thought it might just be part of the ongoing pantomime because he pulled out late in the WCE game for Ellard.
Re: 2015-Rnd 3 Carlton vs Essendon - crashlander - 04-16-2015
(04-15-2015, 11:40 AM)DontgoJuddy link Wrote: Docherty Jamison TuohyLike the previous 2 posters, I think this is probably not far off the mark. Walker, Armfield and Whiley have done enough and deserve a go. Watson is a chance, especially after his effort against Essendon last year, Cripps is a good chance if he is fit. Buckley would add pass and dash from defence.
Rowe Henderson Yarran
Walker Gibbs Simpson
Jones Casboult Everitt
Buckley Watson Armfield
Wood Judd Murphy
Int
Cripps Whiley Carrozzo Bell
In Walker Buckley Watson Armfield Cripps Whiley
Out Menzel (inj) White (inj) Ellard, Tutt, Smith, Curnow (all omitted)
On Notice: Henderson, Murphy, Carrazzo, Jones
However, I am not sure Ellard will be dropped: he is a favourite and he did a very good job negating Hurn last week for 3 quarters. That is more than most of his team mates can claim. Whether he is the answer against a different defence is a good question.
Curnow's form has been ordinary, but he did do the job against Richmond. This may save his bacon.
Tutt may get the chance because he has had only 1 senior appearance and he does offer a good kick at goal. However, if he is going to get so few possessions he will not be a permanent fixture. It will be interesting to see how the Match Committee is thinking, especially with Walker able to fill this role.
Our key defenders really need some confidence. Last year they controlled Essendon's tall forwards easily. However, neither has any form or confidence to bring into this game, while their opponents think they are God after last week.
Last week Wood got killed. If that happens again, we are toast. Bellchambers is a lot less likely to towel up Wood, but he has had 2 excellent games, while Wood is struggling. Essendon don't have much to give Bellchambers a rest, but Casboult has n9ot been rucking well either. In theory Casboult should be able to beat Ambrose or Daniher, but I would hate to bet that way on present form.
Similarly Hurley is in career best form at CHB. Casboult is the sort of player to worry him, but Casboult's form is not close to career best.
The last couple of weeks have shown an Essendon who really want the ball more than their opponents and are physically aggressive. If we show the same desire and aggression we will beat them. It is, after all, one of the defining characteristics of Malthouse coached teams. Unfortunately we have not been showing the major characteristics of Malthouse coached teams: desperation , desire, aggression and on field discipline. If we can match them in these areas, then things could be very interesting.
Re: 2015-Rnd 3 Carlton vs Essendon - LP - 04-16-2015
Curnow is a really interesting case, because he looks fit and based on his game style you would think fitness should equate to form. Has he been worked out by the opposition?
For me Ed Curnow is just a version of Marc Murphy with the skills, agility, pace, decision making and knowledge removed!
If Curnow isn't gut running opponents into the ground he has little to offer, it's up to the MC to give him a role that delivers the opportunity!
Re: 2015-Rnd 3 Carlton vs Essendon - raven19 - 04-16-2015
If we are competitive for 2 quarters it will be an improvement on the efforts to date this season.
Thank goodness we have a friends wedding so I'm no chance of seeing this game in SA.
Re: 2015-Rnd 3 Carlton vs Essendon - DJC - 04-16-2015
Interesting changes; something old, something new, something borrowed and something blue!
It seems that winning is still an important consideration, and so it should be!
That's Armfield, Cripps, Byrne and Walker by the way.
Outs are Menzel, White, Tutt and Smith. Jones keeps his spot :
