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Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - Gointocarlton - 09-25-2020

(09-25-2020, 10:55 AM)Baggers link Wrote:There's a challenge in front of us, well, two... firstly, isolate and reveal exactly who the liars are in this state Govt, then let's get on with rebuilding the place.
Thats easy, all of em.


Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - Swan43 - 09-25-2020

Difficulty is that we have an equally incompetent and corrupt opposition. Bit like the Poms last election. Putrid choice. That said, it's generally politically healthier to turn governments over. They never learn or renew otherwise. That is unless they're fixated with fighting for the spoils of defeat. Like the Libs. Wish it was otherwise.


Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - Gointocarlton - 09-25-2020

(09-25-2020, 08:31 AM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:Baggers..60 million on private security or close to it spent and know one knows anything about it???....someone authorized that money to be spent.  Its either incompetence or straight lying and either way the Government has to go, problem is the opposition and other parties are clueless, faceless no hopers as well.
60 mill could have been spent on the hospital workers getting proper PPE gear and not the cheap Chinese shizen carp they ended up with..source Frankston hospital staff.
EB I read somewhere the figure was $92M.


Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - Gointocarlton - 09-25-2020

(09-25-2020, 10:42 AM)Baggers link Wrote:What if we get a 3rd wave? Would you trust this bunch to get it right?

Among a number of others, I was right there with this govt when they slammed the brakes on the initial outbreak. Ripper. But the 2nd outbreak has revealed incompetence and lies. As I posted earlier, FFS the Federal Govt must assume central control of future pandemics and hand control to the military and science/medicos. When real leadership is required, pollies have shown they're not up to it... and ScoMo needn't be so smug, remember him holidaying whilst lives were being lost in fires? He apologized... good, and got into action. Now, Dan, you've apologized... but now you have to act, decisively and with clinical objectivity, unless you're a part of the problem - and if you don't act, then we know you likely are.
Baggers who is responsible for Quarantine, Federal or State? A mate suggested it was a Fed Gov responsibility but as I understand, Fed Gov is responsible for quarantine from a border security/surveillance  point of view. The issue the orders to quarantine (say people as an eg) but State Govs are responsible of administering and managing it to to protect the health and safety of the public. There is the Quarantine Act but there is also the National Health Security Arrangement and the responsibilities are spelt out there. I think there are structures in place, the fed gov, states and territories need to work together. I believe they did right up until the hotel quarantine decision to use private security was made by Casper the Friendly Ghost it seems.
Some light reading here:

https://www.loc.gov/law/help/health-emergencies/australia.php

This bit

II.  Structure of Public Health Crisis Management System
A.  Federal Laws and National Agreements
In addition to the states and territories having residual legislative powers in relation to health care, the management of emergencies is also not generally a matter for which the federal government may give directions to states and territories under the Constitution.  Therefore, “cooperative and collaborative mechanisms” between these levels of government are needed for the strategic coordination of responses to national emergencies, including public health crises.[11]




Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - flyboy77 - 09-25-2020

(09-25-2020, 10:55 AM)Baggers link Wrote:Whoa Nellie. Roll back the drama there FB.

Yes, there has been a serious and incredibly stupid betrayal of public trust and there must be accountability. But your obvious political bias is blinding you I suggest. The Victoria economy has not been destroyed to isolate just one of your dramatic assertions. Damaged? Yes, but never, ever, underestimate the indomitable spirit and resilience of the Australian people. Despite the stupidity and incompetence of many politicians (all sides) and many greedy banking/corporate leaders, we've recovered from their breathtaking inabilities, and will again.

Park your emotive disdain for Dan Andrews for a moment. And your obvious personal hatred for the bloke is obvious, however... have a bit of trust in those who will rebuild, over time, the VIC economy - us. There's a challenge in front of us, well, two... firstly, isolate and reveal exactly who the liars are in this state Govt, then let's get on with rebuilding the place.

Try again baggers.

I haven't voted Liberal in over 2 decades....

I just despise arrogance and incompetence.

A dangerous mix.


Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - cookie2 - 09-25-2020

Unfortunately as I see things currently there doesn't seem to be anyone on the horizon who may lead us out of this mess. Only bigots, corrupt politicians, loonies, incompetents, opportunists............


Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - Gointocarlton - 09-25-2020

(09-25-2020, 10:45 PM)cookie2 link Wrote:Unfortunately as I see things currently there doesn't seem to be anyone on the horizon who may lead us out of this mess. Only bigots, corrupt politicians, loonies, incompetents, opportunists............
You're spot cookie, these are the worst bunch of polies (all parties) that I have seen ever in Victoria. Its an utter disgrace, I would feed any of them.


Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - mateinone - 09-25-2020

Jenny Mikakos has stood down.
It was pretty obvious from yesterday's statements this was going to happen, but it is a good thing, because she was absolutely inept.

And it it... she was pretty damning of Andrews, making it clear she felt like she had been thrown under the bus by him
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Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - bratblue - 09-25-2020

(09-25-2020, 11:45 PM)mateinone link Wrote:Jenny Mikakos has stood down.
It was pretty obvious from yesterday's statements this was going to happen, but it is a good thing, because she was absolutely inept.

And it it... she was pretty damning of Andrews, making it clear she felt like she had been thrown under the bus by him

She was thrown under a bus by the same person who was driving it.  Her tweet which I couldn't copy was telling and obviously not cleared by the premier.  The faceless pen pushers should also be the ones falling on their swords but that never happens.


Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - mateinone - 09-25-2020

(09-25-2020, 11:52 PM)bratblue link Wrote:She was thrown under a bus by the same person who was driving it.  Her tweet which I couldn't copy was telling and obviously not cleared by the premier.  The faceless pen pushers should also be the ones falling on their swords but that never happens.
I modified my post to include her statement