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Re: General Discussions - Baggers - 03-02-2023
Wow, wish I'd said that (pure hypocrisy) as succinctly as you did, Wingman MAV.
Re: General Discussions - ElwoodBlues1 - 03-02-2023
(03-02-2023, 02:54 AM)Gointocarlton link Wrote:I see some person mocked Jesus on The Project which has caused some anger among the Christian community. I wonder if said person has the balls to mock an Islamic God on that high rating (lol) show. I suspect he'd be busy looking for safehouse the followingI think the ratings tell you something about "the project" as a non quality show......they did a piece on ISIS brides wanting back to Aus at the end of last year that made me switch off for good.
day.
Re: General Discussions - Thryleon - 03-02-2023
(03-02-2023, 06:10 AM)Mav link Wrote:It’s funny when the anti-PC and anti-Woke crowd get their knickers in a knot over “free speech”. The irony is that the right wingers have always been about suppressing free speech and yet they say that they are its protectors.
“Decency” and “respect” only limit attacks on their own sacrosanct concerns: the flag, the national anthem, our “betters”, our police, our military, capitalism (ooh, watch out for them Socialists!) and Christian values (and here we need to note that supposedly religious freedom is heat they’re on about except that only Christian religions are really worthy of respect). And whatever you do, don’t have a go at the military saluting the flag while the national anthem is playing!
I would have thought that decency and respect would mean we shouldn’t bully minorities. And yet the crucible of right-wing thought, the USA, is currently awash with legislation intended to harass minorities and ensure they aren’t treated as equals. There are “Don’t Say Gay” laws, laws banning gender affirming medical treatment, laws banning abortions, laws banning schools from teaching about the history of slavery, book banning where the books include non-CIS gendered characters.
The funny thing is right wingers supposedly want to keep government out of their lives. The smaller government is, the better. And yet they are the ones using government to regulate how others live their lives, even to the extent of prying into bedrooms to do it. So, don’t take our guns but make sure you take their rights. Nice one.
So now its ok, purely because its Christian Right wingers who happen not to agree with your opinion?
Remember that thing about freedom of speech? Its not free of reprisal, and shouting down those opposed to the joke now is the exact hypocrisy you are espousing.
Re: General Discussions - Mav - 03-02-2023
It has never been free of reprisal, as the right wing and conservative religious forces have shown us over the years. The thing that ticks them off is that there is no longer agreement that it’s their God-given right to decide who is cancelled. But never fear, the right wing still has a monopoly on playing the victim.
Re: General Discussions - Thryleon - 03-02-2023
(03-02-2023, 08:01 AM)Mav link Wrote:It has never been free of reprisal, as the right wing and conservative religious forces have shown us over the years. The thing that ticks them off is that there is no longer agreement that it’s their God-given right to decide who is cancelled. But never fear, the right wing still has a monopoly on playing the victim.
No they don't.
This madness needs to end.
We start treating everyone with the respect they deserve, or we are no better than those who came before us.
This eye for an eye business is straight out of the old testament.
Re: General Discussions - kruddler - 03-02-2023
(03-02-2023, 05:26 AM)madbluboy link Wrote:Have you watched Anthony Jeselnik?I had to look him up as i didn't recognise the name. He looks somewhat familiar but i can't recall what i've seen of him.
I started watching some Jim Jeffries a year or so ago after avoiding him for so long.
He is 'the gun control guy' who nailed that better than anyone before or since him. Doesn't mind going hard at 'supposedly sacred' factions.
Re: General Discussions - Mav - 03-02-2023
Thryleon, nice way to suggest we’re talking about violence here. We’re not. Or should I say the only violence mentioned was that of Muslims in retribution for jokes about Mohammad (yep, cancellation perpetrated by the religious). Was that what you meant by reprisals?
And just to clarify, are you saying there can be reprisals against those exercising free speech but there shouldn’t be reprisals to those reprisals? I’d have to say you haven’t made your position clear.
Re: General Discussions - Gointocarlton - 03-02-2023
(03-02-2023, 06:41 AM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:I think the ratings tell you something about "the project" as a non quality show......they did a piece on ISIS brides wanting back to Aus at the end of last year that made me switch off for good.Its utter puss EB, don't watch it. Just read about the story and found it all very interesting.
Re: General Discussions - Gointocarlton - 03-02-2023
(03-02-2023, 06:10 AM)Mav link Wrote:It’s funny when the anti-PC and anti-Woke crowd get their knickers in a knot over “free speech”. The irony is that the right wingers have always been about suppressing free speech and yet they say that they are its protectors.So I am right wing and have my knickers in a knot, ok then.
“Decency” and “respect” only limit attacks on their own sacrosanct concerns: the flag, the national anthem, our “betters”, our police, our military, capitalism (ooh, watch out for them Socialists!) and Christian values (and here we need to note that supposedly religious freedom is heat they’re on about except that only Christian religions are really worthy of respect). And whatever you do, don’t have a go at the military saluting the flag while the national anthem is playing!
I would have thought that decency and respect would mean we shouldn’t bully minorities. And yet the crucible of right-wing thought, the USA, is currently awash with legislation intended to harass minorities and ensure they aren’t treated as equals. There are “Don’t Say Gay” laws, laws banning gender affirming medical treatment, laws banning abortions, laws banning schools from teaching about the history of slavery, book banning where the books include non-CIS gendered characters.
The funny thing is right wingers supposedly want to keep government out of their lives. The smaller government is, the better. And yet they are the ones using government to regulate how others live their lives, even to the extent of prying into bedrooms to do it. So, don’t take our guns but make sure you take their rights. Nice one.
Re: General Discussions - Mav - 03-02-2023
I’m happy to accept your assurances you aren’t, if that’s what you’re saying.