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Re: AFL 2024 Elimination Final 1 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Brisbane - LP - 09-08-2024
(09-08-2024, 01:55 AM)Thryleon date Wrote:No it's a decision made at one moment. Nothing more, nothing less. Wear the contact, take it out of bounds.I think worrying about what happens in rolls of the dice in the last quarter is a bit of a distraction after the events of the first 50 minutes, it's identifying an effect of a horrendous start and clinging to it as a cause.
The players are not time travellers, what they did in the last didn't effect the first qtr and a half!
Re: AFL 2024 Elimination Final 1 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Brisbane - madbluboy - 09-08-2024
(09-08-2024, 01:55 AM)LP link Wrote:The assertion people saw this coming is bullsh1t, nobody saw the once in a 50 year event coming, we were 180 seconds away from something that's never happened before in the history of VFL/AFL and nobody predicted it.
I thought that we would get smashed.
Re: AFL 2024 Elimination Final 1 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Brisbane - LP - 09-08-2024
(09-08-2024, 01:58 AM)madbluboy date Wrote:I thought that we would get smashed.Nobody, not a single soul, predicted we would be about 180s from half-time and scoreless.
In hindsight, we might have been better off remaining scoreless to halftime, at least that record might expose some reality.
Re: AFL 2024 Elimination Final 1 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Brisbane - Baggers - 09-08-2024
(09-08-2024, 01:55 AM)LP link Wrote:The assertion people saw this coming is bullsh1t, nobody saw the once in a 50 year event coming, we were 180 seconds away from something that's never happened before in the history of VFL/AFL and nobody predicted it.
I believe the point K is making is that most saw what the MC did was problematic. No, no-one could have predicted it would be as bad as it was in the first half... but that's not the point. The point is that we took non-hackers, as evidenced by their results over many weeks, into the game when there was an option to select in-form blokes. Very big dots and very easy to join up those dots and predict an obvious outcome.
Just one example of those dots was the omission of Cinc, and, say, giving Motlop a gig. One has been delivering, the other hasn't. That's not on Motlop, that's on the foolishness of the MC.
Re: AFL 2024 Elimination Final 1 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Brisbane - kruddler - 09-08-2024
(09-08-2024, 02:01 AM)LP link Wrote:Nobody, not a single soul, predicted we would be about 180s from half-time and scoreless.
In hindsight, we might have been better off remaining scoreless to halftime, at least that record might expose some reality.
Nobody predicted we would use tdk as the sub either.
What's your point?
Nobody would've predicted we'd kick the first 5 goals last year and fail to turn up from there.
Nobody predicted we'd come back to win from 46 points down at the start of the year either.
This is fun.
What else did Nobody predict. He's a smart guy
Re: AFL 2024 Elimination Final 1 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Brisbane - madbluboy - 09-08-2024
Everyone predicted us to lose, no one predicted Port to get smashed.
Re: AFL 2024 Elimination Final 1 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Brisbane - Lods - 09-08-2024
(09-08-2024, 02:15 AM)kruddler link Wrote:What else did Nobody predict. He's a smart guy
Nobody knows what would have happened if we'd selected differently.
Re: AFL 2024 Elimination Final 1 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Brisbane - northernblue - 09-08-2024
Match committee needs a shake up, someone has been putting too much faith in “established” names.
Maybe we need a stronger voice to argue for boldness in selection, or will it be a cull of assistants that brings in a fresh thought process ?
As head coach Voss is right to have strong beliefs in lists, selection and gameplan, but does he need to back up and listen to other voices ?
We can sit here now and can all see that we should have been playing some of the kids earlier… if only we’d rested Charlie when he first injured himself he may have only missed 1-2 weeks.
A big soul searching off season coming up for the coaching group and their methodologies.
Re: AFL 2024 Elimination Final 1 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Brisbane - northernblue - 09-08-2024
I’m in agreement with LP about the turnovers particularly in the first 1/2.
We got the ball under pressure usually and bombed it… where it was picked off and controlled, as opposed to them bombing it back.
We needed to get a short kick to a target in blue instead we bombed to maroon and blue !
Make no mistake, they were waiting for our bombs and were ready to offer the short lead to allow them to control the ball.
Re: AFL 2024 Elimination Final 1 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Brisbane - Baggers - 09-08-2024
(09-08-2024, 02:46 AM)northernblue link Wrote:I’m in agreement with LP about the turnovers particularly in the first 1/2.
We got the ball under pressure usually and bombed it… where it was picked off and controlled, as opposed to them bombing it back.
We needed to get a short kick to a target in blue instead we bombed to maroon and blue !
Make no mistake, they were waiting for our bombs and were ready to offer the short lead to allow them to control the ball.
Same old, same old NB... soon as H returned we predicted the bombing would return, and it did. Against the Weagles, we couldn't bomb and had to lower our eyes, and we did, and we scored.