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Re: AFL Rd 7 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong - ElwoodBlues1 - 04-29-2024
(04-29-2024, 08:24 AM)Gointocarlton link Wrote:Browny was even more scathing than King.Not wrong...its a fair spray...
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/teams/carlton-blues/afl-news-2021-zac-williams-one-of-the-laziest-footballers-says-jonathan-brown-contract-trade/news-story/da774d0f30b45bde60c5ffa312645c6d
Re: AFL Rd 7 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong - kruddler - 04-29-2024
Whatever you think of the Williams 'incident', one way or another the AFL got it wrong.
There was no free kick paid at the time......so either it deserved a free kick or it didn't.
If it deserved a free kick, it didn't get one, so it was wrong. Umpires were wrong.
If it DIDN'T deserve a free kick, then how can Henry be fined for it? Tribunal are wrong.
Take it whichever way you like, but there is no scenario where everyone was right, so someone was wrong.
Re: AFL Rd 7 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong - kruddler - 04-29-2024
(04-29-2024, 08:43 AM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:Not wrong...its a fair spray...
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/teams/carlton-blues/afl-news-2021-zac-williams-one-of-the-laziest-footballers-says-jonathan-brown-contract-trade/news-story/da774d0f30b45bde60c5ffa312645c6d
Thats from 3 years ago yeah.
Re: AFL Rd 7 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong - ElwoodBlues1 - 04-29-2024
(04-29-2024, 08:21 AM)kruddler link Wrote:Not a good time (player availability wise) to try and make an example of someone....especially given our month of games.Id replace him with Cincotta.....
I reckon Vossy definitely would've highlighted what Williams did wrong, but done so behind closed doors. I doubt we'll see another one of them in a hurry.
Re: AFL Rd 7 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong - ElwoodBlues1 - 04-29-2024
(04-29-2024, 08:46 AM)kruddler link Wrote:Thats from 3 years ago yeah.My point being has he improved?
Re: AFL Rd 7 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong - kruddler - 04-29-2024
(04-29-2024, 08:49 AM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:My point being has he improved?He was injured for most of that and is playing under a different coach with different expectations. He is still getting a game over someone like Cincotta who seems to do the team things, but perhaps lacks the pure ability and skill that Williams has.
Maybe if Saad, McGovern and Docherty were playing now, he wouldn't be.
He was borderling best 22 at the start of the year, and is borderline best 22 now. I don't think he has been terrible, but i think he can certainly improve. He is not alone there though.
I think his dive was good timing (career wise) even though it was terrible timing (game wise).
It gives Vossy the ability to lay down the law and get that sorta thing stamped out from Williams' game, but everyone else on the list too. With plenty of time to get it out of our system come finals time, when there is no room for that sorta thing.
He made a mistake. He's allowed one.
Re: AFL Rd 7 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong - LordLucifer - 04-29-2024
(04-29-2024, 08:45 AM)kruddler link Wrote:Whatever you think of the Williams 'incident', one way or another the AFL got it wrong.
There was no free kick paid at the time......so either it deserved a free kick or it didn't.
If it deserved a free kick, it didn't get one, so it was wrong. Umpires were wrong.
If it DIDN'T deserve a free kick, then how can Henry be fined for it? Tribunal are wrong.
Take it whichever way you like, but there is no scenario where everyone was right, so someone was wrong.
Was going to post something similiar, if the incident was worth a fine then it had to be worth a free kick.
This was just one of a handful of really crappy decisions we copped from the umpires that cost us dearly.
Re: AFL Rd 7 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong - LordLucifer - 04-29-2024
Just in case you thought that 50m penalty against Harry & Crippa made no sense, get a load of this for an explanation :
https://www.afl.com.au/video/1119499/footy-feed-extra-kane-on-stand-rule-ball-movement-extra-time-texts?videoId=1119499&modal=true&type=video&publishFrom=1714368368001&tagNames=AppNewsFeed:Yes
It's the vibe !!!!
Re: AFL Rd 7 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong - kruddler - 04-29-2024
(04-29-2024, 09:11 AM)LordLucifer link Wrote:Just in case you thought that 50m penalty against Harry & Crippa made no sense, get a load of this for an explanation :
https://www.afl.com.au/video/1119499/footy-feed-extra-kane-on-stand-rule-ball-movement-extra-time-texts?videoId=1119499&modal=true&type=video&publishFrom=1714368368001&tagNames=AppNewsFeed:Yes
It's the vibe !!!!
Clear as mud.
Common sense.....that was not used.
Re: AFL Rd 7 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong - madbluboy - 04-29-2024
(04-29-2024, 09:11 AM)LordLucifer link Wrote:Just in case you thought that 50m penalty against Harry & Crippa made no sense, get a load of this for an explanation :
https://www.afl.com.au/video/1119499/footy-feed-extra-kane-on-stand-rule-ball-movement-extra-time-texts?videoId=1119499&modal=true&type=video&publishFrom=1714368368001&tagNames=AppNewsFeed:Yes
It's the vibe !!!!
Voss or Cook need to respond to that.