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Re: AFL Rd 6 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs St. Kilda - Thryleon - 04-18-2023

Form is fickle.  You can turn that around quickly, and go from chocolates to boiled lollies and vice versa very quickly.

Class is permanent though.  A good player who isnt playing well, is two disposals away from hitting form and changing a game.

This is where it gets tricky.  Do you persist with underperforming class or in form also rans?

So, do you promote a Nick Duigan who puts in a 4 goal quarter game changing performance?  Or do you play a Kouta circa 1997 and hope he turns the corner?

Difficult question to answer, and I think you pick your times.  Challenge a player against a difficult opponent and even if they dont meet their potential, they absolve themselves of having played against a red hot opponent if they dont work.  The good players need an easy kill to turn it around IMHO, whilst the ones that have shown ability but lack confidence are better off getting a crack against a classy opponent so even if they arent dominant, they can put in a respectable day at the office.

Thats why im an advocate of Dow, and Kemp getting games now that we as a team aren't playing well.  Fogarty for mine is a bit papers stamped but may as well give him a go and see how he goes, but you need to respect team balance else we just make it harder for everyone.

The likes of Carroll who just turned 20 in December and Honey who is turning 22 in October need to build form and fitness and wont transform team form.  You play them on the periphery and hope they can contribute, rather than turn the team around when they aren't playing well.  They just make it harder for the mainstays as they will vary in output.  If we have a host of injuries, then you can pin your hopes to them, but their form is much more likely to be inconsistent minute to minute and ergo cost you game than anyone else, so you only play these types in place of mature performers if they are breaking down and not capable of performing adequately because those types will give you a quarter or two that will change the game. 

This is where the likes of Fog, Dow, Kemp, Cincotta (I know, he's new but he's on borrowed time) must step up and give us something to challenge the mature agers.  Mirkov can get a taste of it too vs a more mature opponent.  Just throw that big frame around and be a pest please, and if it doesnt work, we can park him at full forward and drop it on his head.  Might draw some frees, or give Harry and Charlie a better run at the footy but dont get in their way.


Re: AFL Rd 6 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs St. Kilda - DJC - 04-18-2023

(04-17-2023, 10:03 PM)Baggers link Wrote:Kemp doesn't lack aggression, Spotted One.

And he’s never played in the midfield … not that we need more midfielders.

Kemp could play the McGovern role to perfection … and he’s unlikely to get a calf twinge or back spasm.


Re: AFL Rd 6 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs St. Kilda - LordLucifer - 04-18-2023

Kemp should be given a game, what do we have to lose by doing so ??

He's a good size and has some good skills, he's not going to get any better languishing in the seconds.

Given we just got spanked, there has to be 4-6 changes to send a mesage to every player at the club that losses like that will not be tolerated.

Plowman, Honey, Fisher need to be dropped with Pittonet to miss through injury.

Cincotta, Kemp, Binns & Mirkov to come in.


Re: AFL Rd 6 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs St. Kilda - DJC - 04-18-2023

(04-18-2023, 02:46 AM)LordLucifer link Wrote:Kemp should be given a game, what do we have to lose by doing so ??

He's a good size and has some good skills, he's not going to get any better languishing in the seconds.

Given we just got spanked, there has to be 4-6 changes to send a mesage to every player at the club that losses like that will not be tolerated.

Plowman, Honey, Fisher need to be dropped with Pittonet to miss through injury.

Cincotta, Kemp, Binns & Mirkov to come in.

I think we need to go back to a seven man defensive rotation that doesn’t involve midfielders; that would be Weitering, Young, Newman, Cowan, Kemp, Cincotta and Saad (if fit).


Re: AFL Rd 6 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs St. Kilda - LP - 04-18-2023

Looks like Cottrell is back in the mix, he could be a big help to add a bit of both ways running, I doubt given his aerobic history that another week makes much difference.


Re: AFL Rd 6 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs St. Kilda - WASurfer - 04-18-2023

Are Pittonet and McGovern definite outs for this weekend?


Re: AFL Rd 6 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs St. Kilda - LP - 04-18-2023

(04-18-2023, 03:47 AM)WASurfer date Wrote:Are Pittonet and McGovern definite outs for this weekend?
Did either train today, if not I'd suggest they won't come up for Saturday, our current policy seems to be train Tuesday or you are done?


Re: AFL Rd 6 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs St. Kilda - Mav - 04-18-2023

Sunday 3.20pm.


Re: AFL Rd 6 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs St. Kilda - Slowhand - 04-18-2023

Usual 'cone of silience' when it comes to reporting on Injuries...


Re: AFL Rd 6 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs St. Kilda - Macca37 - 04-18-2023

If Saad does not get up, surely it's time to play Kemp.  If not now, when?