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Re: AFL Rd 23 2022 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood - kruddler - 08-18-2022
Pick 4 and a sub from that.....assuming Cerra does take his place in the side as he is named in the guts.
[6] Zac Williams,
[29] George Hewett,
[12] Tom De Koning,
[43] Will Setterfield,
[13] Liam Stocker,
[3] Jesse Motlop,
[4] Lochie O'Brien,
[32] Jack Newnes
For mine....
Lob, Newnes, Motlop, Williams with Stocker the sub.
I don't think Hewitt will be fit, i think TDK will make us too tall.
I don't think Setterfield has the urgency required for a finals like intensity. The other blokes have more agro and presence at the contest which we will need vs the pies.
Re: AFL Rd 23 2022 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood - ElwoodBlues1 - 08-18-2022
(08-18-2022, 09:16 AM)kruddler link Wrote:Pick 4 and a sub from that.....assuming Cerra does take his place in the side as he is named in the guts.I wouldn't include Williams as being overly intense or reliable at chasing etc but I agree he will play. I think Setterfield, TDK and LOB will be the other bench warmers.
[6] Zac Williams,
[29] George Hewett,
[12] Tom De Koning,
[43] Will Setterfield,
[13] Liam Stocker,
[3] Jesse Motlop,
[4] Lochie O'Brien,
[32] Jack Newnes
For mine....
Lob, Newnes, Motlop, Williams with Stocker the sub.
I don't think Hewitt will be fit, i think TDK will make us too tall.
I don't think Setterfield has the urgency required for a finals like intensity. The other blokes have more agro and presence at the contest which we will need vs the pies.
My preference as I have stated a few times is Stocker over Williams but I wouldn't be surprised if Stocker ends up on the trade table if he is dropped again, I hope that's not the case but I can't see him staying if he is continually in and out the team...
Re: AFL Rd 23 2022 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood - pinot - 08-18-2022
Match fitness is going to be a big issue for alot of these lads. With Kennedy out - Setters is in.
A lot of good players in VFL that expect to play AFL constantly Harmes . Tomlison, Bowey, Weideman all played from Melbourne VFL. Stock is in the same type of company and think he will be offered a contract. If he is to leave only Adelaide and West Coast have very average midfields where he is a guaranteed starter and unlikely he will move interstate. He will still get plenty of games with us and the club has developed his flexibility.
Re: AFL Rd 23 2022 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood - DJC - 08-18-2022
(08-18-2022, 07:31 AM)madbluboy link Wrote:I'm dreading going this week. Can you imagine the Collingwood fans if they beat us?
My daughter in law, who is a lovely young lady, invited me to watch the game with her in the MCC members. The only problem with that is that she is a fanatical Collingwood supporter.
We really must win, nothing else is acceptable!
PS My son will sit between me and his wife ?
Re: AFL Rd 23 2022 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood - kruddler - 08-18-2022
(08-18-2022, 09:40 AM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:I wouldn't include Williams as being overly intense or reliable at chasing etc but I agree he will play. I think Setterfield, TDK and LOB will be the other bench warmers.Williams isn't overly intense, but he is in competition with Mr Valium himself, Setterfield.
My preference as I have stated a few times is Stocker over Williams but I wouldn't be surprised if Stocker ends up on the trade table if he is dropped again, I hope that's not the case but I can't see him staying if he is continually in and out the team...
For mine, Williams plays back, Doc spends more time in the middle swapping both in bursts.
Re: AFL Rd 23 2022 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood - ElwoodBlues1 - 08-18-2022
(08-18-2022, 10:24 AM)kruddler link Wrote:Williams isn't overly intense, but he is in competition with Mr Valium himself, Setterfield.Think you are right with Williams down back and Doc in the middle and some swapping. I would play Williams on a less dangerous player not someone like Elliott..
For mine, Williams plays back, Doc spends more time in the middle swapping both in bursts.
Re: AFL Rd 23 2022 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood - kruddler - 08-18-2022
(08-18-2022, 10:33 AM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:Think you are right with Williams down back and Doc in the middle and some swapping. I would play Williams on a less dangerous player not someone like Elliott..Yep.
With Saad and Williams both down back it gives us a double pronged running quarterback/deliverer type which allows us to use Saad as a lockdown when required, say for Elliott, and means that 'No Saad, No Carlton' is not so true as Williams fills that role.
Docherty is brilliant off the half back and love his booming kick, but as far as a pure runner/evasive style....thats not really his go, more so Williams.
It also allows us to toughen up the midfield missing a couple blocks in there as Docherty goes as hard as anyone.
Re: AFL Rd 23 2022 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood - Professer E - 08-18-2022
Surely this is all ducks and drakes stuff. Hewitt can't be fit, Cerra must be questionable and I don't trust Williams. If he plays and burns us I'd never forgive him.
This is going to be a fast, hard running game, you'd want to be seriously fit and show up 100% to chase and harass the ball carrier.
I think the most important question is who you going to ruck? We can't carry two rucks.
I don't like the defensive balance and I'd certainly play Stocker to give us a mobile defensive option or midfield rotation. I'd have considered Dow as a running option for the Daicos boys but I doubt he's ever done anything defensive in his career, so that would rule him out as well. I don't think there's a place for Motlop either this week.
Re: AFL Rd 23 2022 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood - LP - 08-18-2022
(08-18-2022, 09:33 PM)Professer E date Wrote:I think the most important question is who you going to ruck? We can't carry two rucks.We can and should run with two rucks, but not with all the other talls playing, the room is full of elephants.
Re: AFL Rd 23 2022 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood - JonDorotich - 08-19-2022
Possibly the best team on paper that we’ve fielded this year - let’s hope that they’re fit and durable on the day?